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John 2Nd Baron D' ARUNDEL, Sir Knight

John 2Nd Baron D' ARUNDEL, Sir Knight

Male 1364 - 1390  (25 years)

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  1. 1.  John 2Nd Baron D' ARUNDEL, Sir Knight was born on 30 Nov 1364 in Lytchett Matravers, Poole, Dorsetshire, England; died on 14 Aug 1390 in Ditton Manor, Stoke Pogis, Buckinghamshire, England; was buried in Missenden Abbey, Buckinghamshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Name: John FITZALAN
    • _UID: ABC420FC86FA478A9DC3B5E8B0E363F1C081

    Notes:

    John; never called to Parliament (perhaps because his mother was still living; if so it would strengthen the supposition that his father was called to Parliament as a peer in right of his wife; (see below against 17th/10th Earl where the Barony of Arundel and Mautravers are amalgamated); born 30 Nov 1364; served against Scots by land 1383 and at sea (against the French?) 1388; married by 1387 Elizabeth, daughter of 1st Lord (Baron) le Despenser, and died 14 Aug 1390. [Burke's Peerage]

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    Sir John d'Arundel (121-8), Lord Arundel. [Magna Charta Sureties, Line 14-9]

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    BARONY of ARUNDEL (II) 1379

    JOHN D'ARUNDEL, son and heir, born 30 November 1364. He was never summoned to Parliament He was with the army in Scotland in 1383, and with the English Fleet in 1388. He married, before 1385, Elizabeth, daughter of Edward (DESPENSER), LORD Le DESPENSER, by Elizabeth, daughter and heir of Bartholomew (BURGHERSH), LORD BURGHERSH. He died 14 August 1390, and was buried in Missenden Abbey. On 15 July 1406 he is referred to as John Darundell Chivaler, and his son as John Darundell Esquire. His widow married William (LA ZOUCHE), LORD ZOUCHE OF HARYNGWORTH, who died 13 May 1396. She died 10 or 11 April 1408. Will, desiring to be buried in Tewkesbury Abbey, dated 4 Apri 1408. [Complete Peerage I:260, XIV:40, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    Note: CP assumes that the reason he was not called was because this Barony, even though it was not named so, was really the Mautravers/Maltravers Barony in right of his mother Eleanor; and John died before she did and therefore was not summoned to Parliament. However since the title was Arundel, and not Mautravers, he can legally be assumed to be the 2nd of that title.

    John married Elizabeth Le DESPENSER before 1385 in 1st Husband. Elizabeth (daughter of Edward II 1St Baron Le DESPENSER, Kg, Sir and Elizabeth De BURGHERSH) was born about 1367 in Essendine, Rutlandshire, England; died between 10 and 11 Apr 1408 in Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England; was buried in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Notes:

    Alt. Marriage:
    1st husband

    Children:
    1. John FITZALAN, 13th Earl Of Arundel, Kb, Sir was born on 1 Aug 1385 in Ditton Manor, Stoke Pogis, Buckinghamshire, England; died on 21 Apr 1421 in Arundel Caslte, West Sussex, England; was buried in Arundel Chapel, Sussex, England.
    2. Thomas FITZALAN, Sir Knight was born before 1390 in Arundel, Sussex, England; died in 1431 in Beechwood, Sussex, England.

Generation: 2

    Children:
    1. 1. John 2Nd Baron D' ARUNDEL, Sir Knight was born on 30 Nov 1364 in Lytchett Matravers, Poole, Dorsetshire, England; died on 14 Aug 1390 in Ditton Manor, Stoke Pogis, Buckinghamshire, England; was buried in Missenden Abbey, Buckinghamshire, England.