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Gabriel CARNEY

Gabriel CARNEY

Male 1858 - 1933  (74 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Gabriel CARNEY was born on 31 Mar 1858 in Choctaw County, Alabama (son of Harmon M CARNEY and Lidda P CARR); died in Mar 1933 in New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana.

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    • FamilySearch ID: KZVM-65M
    • _UID: FF45597C933E41D5A3B53932E0AF8BE5C29D

    Gabriel married Annie Maria CAMPBELL on 15 Nov 1876 in Choctaw County, Alabama. Annie (daughter of Elias CAMPBELL and Annis Elizabeth PEARSON) was born in 1857 in Choctaw County, Alabama; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Ansley Powell CARNEY was born on 7 May 1890 in Meridian, Lauderdale. MS; and died.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Harmon M CARNEY was born in 1824 in Clarke County, Mississippi (son of John "Jack" CARNEY and Mary Ann SIMMONS); died after 1880 in Choctaw County, Alabama.

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    • FamilySearch ID: LZNH-L4T
    • Name: Bud CARNEY
    • _UID: C37A973EAAE84515BA8F116F029B47A95477
    • Alt. Death: 26 Apr 1893, Lusk, Choctaw, Alabama

    Notes:

    Harmon and Lydia's marriage recorded in Lawrence Co MS
    Mississippi Marriages, 1826-1900
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    CARNEY, HARMON M.
    Spouse: CARR, LYDIA Marriage Date: 29 Jan 1837
    County: Lawrence State: MS



    Harmon is found in the 1850 Choctaw Co AL Census as follows:

    H. Carney 26 MS
    Lidda P. 28 MS
    Wm 11 MS
    Catherine 9 MS
    Jesse 6 AL
    Louisa 5 AL
    Harmon 3 AL
    Mary Jane 1 AL

    1860 Choctaw Co AL Census

    Harmon Carna 46 MS (notice the spelling in this census "Carna" HH #342 Bladen Springs Townships 9, 10, 11, 12
    Lidia 30 MS
    Alzeda C 20 MS
    Jesse 18 AL
    Louisa 15 AL
    Harrison 13 AL (harmon)
    Mary J 11 AL
    John 8 AL
    Duncan 6 AL
    Gabriel H 3 AL

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    1870 Choctaw Co AL Census HH 334 Butler Township 11

    Harmon Carney 56 MS
    Lydia 54 AL
    John 19 AL
    Duncan 16 AL
    Gabriel 13 AL
    Martha 10 AL

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    Harmon and Lydia listed in the 1880 Choctaw Co, Al Census as follows:

    #152 Harmon Carney 64 MS TN TN (mistake in age)
    Lydia 56 MS US US
    Martha 18 AL

    These Carney were listed as going to these churches in Choctaw Co AL 1874

    Carney, Duncan ----Pleasant Valley
    Carney, George H. ----Brightwater
    Carney, H. ----Pleasant Valley
    Carney, Harman Jr. ----Pleasant Valley
    Carney, Harriet---- Brightwater
    Carney, John---- Pleasant Valley
    Carney, Lidea---- Pleasant Valley
    Carney, Margret---- Pleasant Valley
    Carney, Sarah ----Brightwater
    Carney, Susan ----Brightwater


    1n 1844, Harmon acquried 80 acres of land in Lawerence Co MS as follows:

    CARNEY, HARMON
    Land Office: WASHINGTON Sequence #:
    Document Number: 5864 Total Acres: 80
    Misc. Doc. Nr.: Signature: Yes
    Canceled Document: No Issue Date: May 07, 1844
    Mineral Rights Reserved: No Metes and Bounds: No
    Survey Date: Statutory Reference: 3 Stat. 566
    Multiple Warantee Names: No Act or Treaty: April 24, 1820
    Multiple Patentee Names: No Entry Classification: Sale-Cash Entries

    Accession/Serial #: MS0470__.009 BLM Serial #: MS NO S/N
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    Patent Description Legal Land Description Document Image Certified Copy
    Aliquot
    Parts Sec./
    Block Township Range Fract.
    Section Meridian State Counties Survey
    Nr.
    5 16/ 5-N 12-E No Washington MS Lawrence
    10 16/ 5-N 12-E No Washington MS Lawrence

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    In June 1, 1860. Harmon Carney acquire 240 acres of land in Choctaw Co AL, as follows:

    http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/Detail.asp?

    Accession=AL1560%5F%5F%2E211&Index=1&QryID=47321%2E84&DetailTab=2
    CARNEY, HARMON
    Land Office: ST STEPHENS Sequence #:
    Document Number: 15846 Total Acres: 240
    Misc. Doc. Nr.: Signature: Yes
    Canceled Document: No Issue Date: June 01, 1860
    Mineral Rights Reserved: No Metes and Bounds: No
    Survey Date: Statutory Reference: 3 Stat. 566
    Multiple Warantee Names: No Act or Treaty: April 24, 1820
    Multiple Patentee Names: No Entry Classification: Sale-Cash Entries

    Aliquot
    Parts Sec./
    Block Township Range Fract.
    Section Meridian State Counties Survey
    Nr. W?SW 11/ 11-N 3-W No St Stephens AL Choctaw S?NW 11/ 11-N 3-W No St Stephens AL Choctaw NENW 11/ 11-N 3-W No St Stephens AL Choctaw SWNE 11/ 11-N 3-W No St Stephens AL Choctaw

    Legal Land Description:
    # Aliquot Parts Block # Base Line Fractional Section Township Range Section #
    1 W?SW ST STEPHENS No 11N 3W 11
    2 S?NW ST STEPHENS No 11N 3W 11
    3 NENW ST STEPHENS No 11N 3W 11
    4 SWNE ST STEPHENS No 11N 3W 11
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    1 5 WASHINGTON No 5N 12E 16
    2 1 WASHINGTON No 5N 12E 16
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    1860 United States Federal Census
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    Carna, Harmon View Image Online
    State: Alabama Year: 1860
    County: Choctaw Roll: M653_5
    Township: Townships 9, 10, 11, 12 Page: 431
    Image: 434


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    Carna, Hiram View Image Online
    State: Alabama Year: 1860
    County: Choctaw Roll: M653_5
    Township: Townships 9, 10, 11, 12 Page: 447
    Image: 450


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    Carna, William J. View Image Online
    State: Alabama Year: 1860
    County: Choctaw Roll: M653_5
    Township: Townships 9, 10, 11, 12 Page: 431
    Image: 434


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    Harmon married Lidda P CARR on 29 Jan 1837 in Lawrence Co, MS. Lidda was born between 1821 and 1822 in Mississippi; died after 1880 in Choctaw County, Alabama. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Lidda P CARR was born between 1821 and 1822 in Mississippi; died after 1880 in Choctaw County, Alabama.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LZNH-L5J
    • _UID: B15339B6815D47C791F847ACEE8AFACC9985

    Children:
    1. William J CARNEY was born in 1839 in Mississippi; and died.
    2. Alzeda Catherine CARNEY was born in 1841 in Mississippi; and died.
    3. Jesse CARNEY was born in 1844 in Choctaw County, Alabama; and died.
    4. Louiza Jane CARNEY was born in 1845 in Choctaw County, Alabama; died on 4 Nov 1906 in Buried At MT Carmel, Cordova, Walker Co, AL.
    5. Harmon CARNEY was born in 1847 in Choctaw County, Alabama; died after 1890.
    6. Mary Jane CARNEY was born in 1849 in Choctaw County, Alabama; and died.
    7. John James CARNEY was born on 7 Aug 1852 in Choctaw County, Alabama; died in 1888; was buried in Pleasant Hill Cem, Red Springs Rd, Choctaw Co, AL.
    8. Duncan CARNEY was born in 1854 in Choctaw County, Alabama; and died.
    9. 1. Gabriel CARNEY was born on 31 Mar 1858 in Choctaw County, Alabama; died in Mar 1933 in New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana.
    10. Martha Emily CARNEY was born on 24 Jan 1860 in Choctaw County, Alabama; and died.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  John "Jack" CARNEY was born in 1795 in NC Or Tennessee (Borders Moved 1790) (son of John CARNEY and Ann); died in 1865 in Mississippi; was buried in Birdsong Cemetary, Choctaw Co., Alabama.

    Other Events:

    • Fact 1: Fact 1
    • FamilySearch ID: LCZC-9GB
    • Name: Jack
    • _UID: 76F6C9CC6C214F429AE21B39B0034511F828
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 1795; Alt. Birth
    • Residence: 1850, Choctaw county, Choctaw, Alabama
    • Residence: 1860, Pine Woods District, Catahoula, Louisiana
    • Alt. Death: WFT Est 1821-1886; Alt. Death

    Notes:

    He lived first in MS, moved to AL, changed his name to Jack presumeably to prevent confusion, and moved back to MS. Buried 18 miles north of Alexandria, LA (according to one researcher)

    1818 MS State Census Lawrence Co, JOHN CARNEY Jun.-1 male over 21, 1male under 21, 1 female over 21
    JESSE SIMMONDS - 1 male over 21, 5 males under 21, 1 female over 21, and 2 females under 21. - 6 slaves

    John Carney and Mary Ann Simmons were married in Maury Co,., TN, in 1815. Jesse Simmons' will lists one of his daughters as "Mary the wife of John Carney". John Carney signed for her share, Oct 27, 1832, in Lawrence Co, MS

    1820 Lawrence Co, MS Census
    John Carney: 1 m(16-26), 1 m(0-10)/ 1 f(16-26), 1 f(0-10)[TWP 7]

    1830 Marion Co, MS Census
    Carney, John, Jr. - 2 m(0-5); 1 m(5-10); 1 m(10-20); 1 m(20-40);/ 1
    f(0-10); 1 f(10-20); 1 f(20-40)

    John Carney on 1835 Lauderdale Co, MS Tax Roll (now in Lauderdale Co, MS)

    1840 Lauderdale Co, MS Census, page 59
    Jno Kearney - 2m(5-10), 1m(10-15), 1m(15-20), 1m(50-60)/ 2f(0-5), (The name is spelled Kearney here, but back to Carney later) 1f(40-50)

    Harmon is next door as follows:
    Harmon Kearney - 1m(0-5), 1m(20-30)/ 1f(16-26)

    There is a John Carney listed on the 1840 Sumter Co Al Census also (Choctaw Co was previously part of Sumter). He is on the same page as Joel P Thompson.

    John Carney 1840 Sumter Co AL

    This family found in the 1850 Choctaw County Alabama Census.

    1850 Choctaw Co, AL Census
    John Carney 55 NC Planter HH 100
    Mary A. 50 NC
    Riley 22 MS
    Hiram 17 MS
    Mary A. 14 MS
    Louisa 12 MS
    Houston 6 MS
    James L. 3 MS

    H. Carney 26 MS
    Lidda P. 28 MS
    Wm 11 MS
    Catherine 9 MS
    Jesse 6 AL
    Louisa 5 AL
    Harmon 3 AL
    Mary Jane 1 AL

    An interesting fact is that in the 1850 Sumter County Alabama Census, there is a John Kearney listed. Choctaw County was previously part of Sumter County. This John Kearney lived near John Carney and Mary A Simmons. This John Kearney states that he was born in Ireland. It appears that his mother-in-law is also listed, as follows:

    1850 Sumter Co,. AL Census

    John Kearney 33 M Ireland (born 1817)
    Hulda 33 F Alabama
    Michael 1 M Alabama
    Nancy Nucum 55 F North Carolina (Could be Mother-in-law)

    Family is found again in Catahoula Parish:
    http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/la/catahoula/census/1860/
    This takes you to 1860 - Look down the list - click on - 0549.GIF
    p. 123

    Catahoula Parish LA 1860
    John Carney 65 NC
    Mary 64 NC
    Houston 18 AL
    James 14 AL
    (Doris Kennedy kindly referred me to this information)

    Other Sources: Over 500 pages of Notes, Records and Files at the Carney DNA Project Jim Carney www.avocadoridge.com/jim March 2010

    Fact 1:
    John Carney and Jesse P. Wallace lived 4 households apart in 1850

    Alt. Birth:
    Noth Carolina

    John married Mary Ann SIMMONS on 1 Nov 1815 in Maury County, Tennessee. Mary (daughter of Jesse SIMMONS and Charity BUTTS) was born about 1800 in North Carolina; died on 14 Aug 1874; was buried in Black Creek Church Daleville, , Mississippi. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Mary Ann SIMMONS was born about 1800 in North Carolina (daughter of Jesse SIMMONS and Charity BUTTS); died on 14 Aug 1874; was buried in Black Creek Church Daleville, , Mississippi.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LXWW-LXD
    • _UID: 8C571A21FC1A45109AEB149DDAB5E2A8D8DB
    • Residence: 1850, Choctaw county, Choctaw, Alabama
    • Residence: 1860, Pine Woods District, Catahoula, Louisiana

    Notes:

    John Carneyb. 1795 and wife Mary Ann Simmons in a Louisiana census. What were they doing there? Catahoula County...Pine Woods 1860?....

    Notes:

    Alt. Marriage:
    Maury County, Tennessee

    Children:
    1. 2. Harmon M CARNEY was born in 1824 in Clarke County, Mississippi; died after 1880 in Choctaw County, Alabama.
    2. John CARNEY was born on 17 May 1827 in Mississippi; died on 3 Jul 1895 in Needham, Choctaw Co, Alabama; was buried in Brightwater Cemetary, Choctaw Co, AL..
    3. Wriley CARNEY was born in 1828 in Mississippi; and died.
    4. King Hiram CARNEY was born in 1833 in Mississippi; and died.
    5. Mary Ann CARNEY was born on 15 May 1835 in Mississippi; and died.
    6. Louisa Jane CARNEY was born in 1838 in Mississippi Or Georgia; and died.
    7. Houston CARNEY was born in 1844 in Mississippi; and died.
    8. James S CARNEY was born in 1847 in Washington, Alabama; and died.
    9. Henry Clay CARNEY was born in 1850 in Tennessee; and died.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  John CARNEY was born in 1775 in Chocktaw Indian Territory, Mississippi (son of Iklannabee (Ikenaby, Iklanby) John CARNEY and Sally Ann KEARNEY (CARNEY)); died on 21 Mar 1855 in Marion County, Mississippi.

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    • FamilySearch ID: LKR8-LVG
    • Occupation: ; Captain
    • _UID: 81D0D853D54E4685BEFDB9CB13EBE7770580
    • Census: 1820, Lawrence County, MS
    • Residence: 1830, Marion, Mississippi
    • Residence: 1840, Pike, Mississippi
    • Census: 1850, Marion County, MS
    • Residence: 1850, Marion, Mississippi

    Notes:

    John Carney, who was 1/4 Choctaw Indian, was born in Choctaw Indian Territory in 1775, as evidenced by Censuses of himself and his children. John was the son of Iklannabee, a half-blood Choctaw Indian Chief and Sally Ann Kearney, a white woman. Growing up, his family resided in Choctaw lands in eastern Mississippi. John Carney was a man of moderate wealth and influence, and while darker than many, could have passed for a white with full privileges. Through various times in his life, John held slaves to assist in his farming/plantation enterprises.

    His Mississippi family was related to the Tennessee Carney's through their common heritage with his grandfather Arthur Carney, an Indian Trader, and who had at least two families concurrently. One with a white woman and one with an Indian Chief daughter (Princess), as was the custom at the time in establishing trade relations with the Choctaws. DNA testing of several Carney Family volunteers has confirmed the Mississippi John Carney (B: 1775) line is related through an exact match with 37 markers to the Tennessee John Carney (B: 1748) line.

    Some years after the American Revolution, John reached the age of maturity and took a wife. He may have wanted to integrate into American white society and left his Indian lands in Mississippi as a young man, moving to be near his uncle John Carney (B:1748) in time for his first child to be born in 1791 at the age of 16 or 17. We do not know who his wife was, but she is apparently a white girl as evidenced by the diminishing note of Indian heritage. John stayed in Tennessee for around 25 years (during years of turmoil in Mississippi), as several of his children were born in North Carolina and in particular the well documented Elijah Carney, born in Davidson County, Tennessee in 1803. This is further supported by an 1816 Tennessee Court Case, where the State of Tennessee had brought a law suit against John Kerney Sr., John Kerney Jr., and Elijah Kerney over a land dispute. What is important in the filing of the lawsuit is that there are two John Carney's. With the elder John 30 years older than his nephew, it would stand to reason they defined these relations as John Senior and John Junior, from Mississippi origin.

    Further to this, we find that one of John Jr.'s children, Nancy Carney - who in 1808 married Bartholomew Baugh in Tennessee, had as a witness to their marriage; John Blackburn - who was the husband of Lucy Carney (John Sr. daughter). You might also notice that the children of John from Mississippi also used many of the familiar family first names bore by the Tennessee Carneys families. All this evidence ties the two family lines of John from Mississippi together irrevocably with the John from Tennessee as close family.

    We don't know when John left for Tennessee - as a youth if he was sent there with his father Iklannabee, or as a young man. A possible reason for the relocation to North Carolina/Tennessee from Mississippi was the aborted uprising against Spanish Control in 1781 and when the insurgency was crushed, several inhabitants of Natchez district and surrounds who had taken part or even sympathetic, took refuge in NC/TN. Also, at the end of the American Revolution in 1783, a great migration of persons loyal to one side or another were transitory to different lands. This is the time his grandfather Arthur Carney, was banished from Georgia as an English Loyalist and arrived in east Florida (Mississippi) from Georgia. Many, such as Trader John Turnbull (leader of Spanish revolt) and our John Carney returned later after the Spanish-American war of 1812 ended in 1814, perhaps arriving back in Mississippi in 1817.

    William and Arthur Carney being Indian Traders were found trading in these areas from 1783 onwards, in towns such as St. Augustine, Pensacola, Mobile, Chickasaw Bluffs, New Orleans Fernandina, Bon Secour, etc. Other traders of note were Turner Brashear, Lachlan and John McGillivray, John Turnbull, and others. Turnbull has a close family relationship with the Carneys as seem to be locally the Brashears (Brassiers) and the Leflore's

    A few years after Sarah "Sallie" was born in Tennessee, John took his family back to Mississippi arriving by 1817 with daughters Martha, Elijah and Sarah "Sallie". Mary and Nancy were married in Tennessee and John "Jack" Carney took a Tennessee bride, but at some point all the children moved to Mississippi also.

    Some Census/Rolls:
    John Carney on 1817 Tax Roll, Lawrence County MS (believed to be John B: 1775)
    John Carney, Jr. on 1817 Tax Roll, Lawrence County MS (believed to by son John B: 1795)

    Mississippi State Census Lawrence Co, 1818:
    John Carney, Sen. -1 male over 21, 1 male under 21, 1 female over 21, & 2 females under 21. -with 2 slaves

    Marion Co, MS -1820:
    John Carney Sr. (over 45) is in Marion Co,. with a wife (over 45), son-Elijah & 2 daughters-Martha & Sarah.

    Marion Co, MS 1830 Census:
    John Carney, Senr. - 1male (60-70) and 1female (50-60) - 3 slaves
    John Carney, Jr. on Marion Co, MS Census 1830
    Elijah Carney on Marion Co, MS Census 1830

    1840 Marion Co, MS Census:
    1840, Marion County, John, Sr is between 60 & 70 years old.
    Elijah Carney on Marion Co, MS Census 1840

    Found in 1850 (age 70) Census of Marion Co, MS.
    Census data: 1850 Marion in the House next to Elijah and family-
    28 128 128 Curney John 70 M Farming
    Birth: Unknown
    29 129 129 Curney E. (Elijah) 44 M Miller
    Te X
    30 129 129 Curney M. (Mahalia) 47 F
    Ga.
    31 129 129 Curney P. (Polly) 15 F
    Mis
    32 129 129 Curney T. (Thankful)12 F
    Mis X
    33 129 129 Curney S. (Simeon) 10 M
    Mis X
    34 129 129 Curney J. (Jane) 8 F
    Census Notes; Children went by middle name. John didn't know his exact place of birth, another indicator of Indian blood birth in Choctaw Indian Territory (Mississippi and east Alabama primarily). Note documentation of birth places, a family history gold mine.

    Excerpt from 16 Aug 1932 text written by W.B. Russell age 82:
    "Moses Rials, born May 11, 1804, died on his 86th birthday, May 11, 1890. Moses Rials married Sallie Carney, daughter of John Carney, son of Ikenably, an Indian Chief. John Carney's mother was American.
    Grandma Sallie Carney had a sister, Pollie, whose posterity dead. She married a Green. I remember visiting her. She lived on what is now known as the Pollie Green place, half a mile southeast of where Uncle John Rials and wife are buried (old Bismark Church). One daughter of John Carney married a Baugh, posterity lives in the counties of Smith, Simpson and Hines."

    Other researchers have attached unproven/improbable wives to John. His wife can't be Ann Lucas, because children of Ann Lucas were born in South Carolina, and documentation is clear marriage was too late, and Ann too young, to have had John's children. Sometimes son John's wife Mary Ann Simmons is confused with his dad and of course is incorrect. At the moment, we do not know for certain whom his wife was.

    John Carney died before March 21, 1855, (probably around January 1855) when his heirs were found in Marion County Court, making an agreement on the settlement of his estate. His 6 children signed (some with an X) the settlement. In later years, John lived next door to his son Elijah, who was also appointed the executor of his estate.

    Marion County Land Deeds Vol C pd 741 3-21-1855
    An agreement of The Heirs
    Of
    John Carney decd
    This agreement between Elijah Carney, John Carney, Mary Green, Martha Tullis, Sarah Ryalls, and Moses Ryalls her husband, Nancy Baw and Berthy Baugh her husband, the said Elijah John, Mary, Martha, Sarah, and Nancy ,- - - distributed and heirs of law of John Carney late of Marion County, Mississippi
    Witnesseth, That for the purpose of making a speedy and communal division of the estate of said deceased, both real and personal of the property Agree to and with each other as follows: The Slaves belonging to said estate be divided among said distributed in kind, and we hereby agree that Berry -*-- Craft and Nathaniel M Ross may be the commissioners to make such a -*-- and the division to be made by them Shall be binding on all parties. Any in the Value of the Several Slaves (on all parties) Crossed thru ) of the slaves?, Shall be made good by parties out of the money or other property of Said Estate. As soon as the division made by Said Commissioners, which is expected will be in a few days, the dis-*-- muturally to execute to each other proper releases to pass their interest in said accuracy to the division; The real estate, and the balance of the personal estate Sold at public venue on a credit until the first of January next and for -*-- of making such sale the said Elijah Carney is to act as agent and trustee for the - *-- With the privilege of becoming a purchaser at the Sales if he chooses to do so, to take place in a few days, and the purchasers are all to give notes worthy for their purchases. Said Elijah Carney is to receive for the duties of such trustee Such Compensation as the commissioners, above name Shall Say, is right for of the Sales of the real and personal estate are to be applied to the payment of Expences, and distributed in the same mannor as if Said estate had been and according to law: All the heirs are to write in a deed of conveyance to the real estate, The cotton belonging to said estate may be sold at public Sale by the said Elijah Carney for himself agrees that he will faithfully perform the Such trust and agency, and he is to give Security for the Same.
    Witness our hands and Seals This 21st day of March A. D. 1855
    Elijah Carney [signed]
    John X his mark Carney
    Mary X her mark Green
    Martha X her mark Tullis
    Sarah X her Mark Ryalls
    Moses X Ryalls
    Nancy X Baw
    Barthlamew Baugh [signed]
    For value Received I hereby covenant and agree to and with the parties name instrument, that Elijah Carney trustee and agent therein named Shall and perform the duties of such trust and agency and made and render a Just account
    Witness my hand and Seal This 21th day of March 1855
    Elijah Carney [signed]
    Filed 7th April 1855
    Jno H Webb Clerk
    Duly Recorded 7th April AD 1855
    Jno H Webb Clerk

    Other Documentation:
    (1)From Mississippi Territorial tax records - Lawrence Co,:
    TAX 1818: JOHN CARNEY, Lawrence Co,, MS: 160 acres, class 4, quality 2,
    Location: Falling Creek, held under U.S. title, 1 pole, - State Tax $1.15, County: Tax - $1.31

    1818: After tax list for 1818 there appears another list for:
    "The Amount of Taxes Assessed and Not Liable to be Collected the Present Year." The statement is as follows: John Carney, Sr., overcharged in white pole State: $3.83, County $2.75.
    TAX 1818: John Carney, Jr.: on Falling Creek, 1 Poll, tax - $0.83
    (This provides evidence of a John Carney Sr. and Jr. in same Tax Roll)

    (2)1819: LAWRENCE COUNTY, MS TAX LIST: JOHN CARNEY: on Pearl River - West, 1 poll $1.00.
    1819: LAWRENCE COUNTY, MS TAX LIST: Barthemew Baw -Monticello, 1 poll- $1.00

    COMMENT: Between 1820 and 1828- John Carney (the son) seems to be listed in Lawrence County and the rest of the family is in Marion County. This is not hard to understand if you know the area and the history of the changes in the county lines. Part of present day Lawrence County was in Marion and part of present day Marion was in Lawrence. The Pike county line has changed also. This might account for the fact that Elijah Carney was in Marion County in the 1830 census and in Pike County in 1840 census, then in Marion County in 1850.

    (3)1828 to 1831, MARION Co,, MS TAX LIST: John Carney Sr, John Carney Jr, Elijah Carney, Silas Tullis, Barthomew Baw.
    COMMENT: William Carney was in Marion county in 1828, but is not there in 1829. This could have been one of the Tennessee cousins who came to Mississippi but decided to go back or go west.

    (4) 1840 Marion Co, MS Census:
    John Carney Senr - 1 male (60-70) & 1female (50-60)
    Elijah Carney - 1 m (20-30) & 1 f (20-30), 3 f (0-5)
    John Carney Junr -1m (30-40), 1m (10-15), 1m (5-10), 2m (0-5), & 1f (20-30), 1f (10-15), 1f (5-10)
    Silus Tullis - 1m(30-40), 2m(5-10) & 1f(20-30), 2f(0-5)
    Bartholomew Baugh - 1m (40-50), 1m (10-15), 2m (0-5) & 1f (30-40), 2 (5-10), 1(0-5)

    COMMENT: 1840 Marion Co, MS Census: We found John Carney, between 60 & 70 years old, Silus Tillus & Moses Rials. Elijah Carney was in Pike County and Bartholomew Baugh was in Simpson County. John Jr was not in Lawrence, Marion, Pike, Simpson, Smith or any of the surrounding counties. (John, Jr. was in Lauderdale Co)

    1. Patent # 4890: Sept 28, 1836, John Carney, Senior, of Marion Co,, MS purchased the W ?,SE 1/4, Sec 27, TWP 5, Range 11E, containing 80 acres, at the rate of $1.25 acres amounting to $100 for which the said John Carney, Senior has made payment in full, as required by Law: signed -
    John Carney Sr by Silos Tullos.
    2. Patent # 4947: Oct 5, 1836, JOHN CARNEY, Senior, of Marion Co,, MS purchased the E ? , SW 1/4, Sec 27, TWP 5, Range 11E, containing 80 acres, at the rate of $1.25 per acre, amounting to $100. This was signed: John Carney Sr by Peter Q. Bridges.
    3. Patent # 5071: Oct 22, 1836, John Carney, Junr. of Marion Co,, MS
    purchased the NW 1/4, NW 1/4, Sec 21, TWP 5, Range 12E, containing 39.97
    acres, at the rate of $1.25 per acre, amounting to $49.96. This was signed: John [X] Carney, Junr.
    4. Patent # 5710: January 17, 1837, John Carney Senr of Marion County purchased the NW quarter, SW quarter, Sec 34 and the SE quarter of SE quarter of Sec 28, TWP 5, Range 11E, containing 80 acres at $1.25 per acre, amounting to $100. This one is signed John (X) Carney Senr.
    5. On 30 Dec 1836, John Carney Senr gave a deposition in Lawrence County before J. Caldwell, Clk that he was buying this land for his own personal use and not in trust for another.

    COMMENT: All of this land is near present day Lawrence & Marion Co, line. By looking at the map I found that T5N, R11E, - S27, 28 & 34, are SW of Tilton near Tiltons Creek. T5N R12E S16 is where Tiltons Creek empties into Pearl River SE of Tilton. Note Patent #5071: John Jr purchased land in T5N R12E S21 - just over the line in Marion Co, south of S16 (Harmon's land) in Lawrence Co.

    Other Comments: Wife can't be Ann Lucas, because children of Ann Lucas were born in South Carolina, and documentation is clear marriage was too late, and Ann too young, to have had these children. Wife can't be sons Wife Mary Ann Simmons. PROOF OF DEATH is the Reading of the Will 1855. Often confused with son John "Jack" Carney in other researchers work.

    Other Sources: Over 500 pages of Notes, Records and Files at the Carney DNA Project Jim Carney www.avocadoridge.com/jim March 2010

    John married Ann. Ann was born in 1780 in North Carolina; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Ann was born in 1780 in North Carolina; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 5137FB665C0B4BA0BC31B7BB365C952EEFF4

    Notes:

    I Can't confirm this person is John's wife... details are too similar to son John's marriage to Ann B. Lucas

    Children:
    1. Mary "Pollie" CARNEY was born in 1791 in North Carolina; died about 1860.
    2. Nancy CARNEY was born on 18 Dec 1792 in North Carolina; died on 4 Oct 1868 in Smith County, Mississippi.
    3. 4. John "Jack" CARNEY was born in 1795 in NC Or Tennessee (Borders Moved 1790); died in 1865 in Mississippi; was buried in Birdsong Cemetary, Choctaw Co., Alabama.
    4. Martha CARNEY was born on 11 Jan 1802 in Tennessee; died in 1850.
    5. Elijah CARNEY was born in 1803 in Davidson County, Tennessee; died on 25 Jan 1860 in Lawrence County, Mississippi.
    6. Sarah "Sallie" CARNEY was born on 16 Apr 1808 in Tennessee; died on 22 Aug 1868 in Lawrence County, Mississippi.

  3. 10.  Jesse SIMMONS was born about 1765 in Orange, North Carolina (son of John SIMMONS and Diana HERBERT); died on 22 Oct 1832 in Lawrence, Mississippi.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LC3R-7WZ
    • _UID: 16FE9E7226324D9FA3D67A11D1702AA67DE8

    Notes:

    Will found listing daughter Mary... John Carney signed for inheritance.

    Jesse married Charity BUTTS about 1794 in North Carolina. Charity was born in 1766 in Orange, North Carolina; died on 7 Feb 1846 in Attala, Mississippi. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Charity BUTTS was born in 1766 in Orange, North Carolina; died on 7 Feb 1846 in Attala, Mississippi.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LCQ3-4Q5
    • _UID: 42ACAB5A18A84BA7895991C1418D7B1F41E7
    • Residence: 1840, Lawrence, Mississippi

    Children:
    1. John SIMMONS and died.
    2. Mary SIMMONS and died.
    3. Betsy SIMMONS was born in 1795 in North Carolina; and died.
    4. John SIMMONS was born in 1797 in North Carolina; died in 1850 in Rusk, Texas.
    5. Elias SIMMONS was born in 1798 in North Carolina; died in 1867 in Attala, Mississippi.
    6. 5. Mary Ann SIMMONS was born about 1800 in North Carolina; died on 14 Aug 1874; was buried in Black Creek Church Daleville, , Mississippi.
    7. Peggy SIMMONS was born about 1800; and died.
    8. James H. SIMMONS was born on 15 Feb 1801 in Rowan, North Carolina; died on 16 Apr 1879 in Forest Grove, Collin, Texas; was buried in 1879 in Fitzhugh Cemetery, Forest Grove, Collin, Texas.
    9. Levicy SIMMONS was born in 1805 in North Carolina; died in 1850.
    10. Lovisa SIMMONS was born in 1807 in Rowan, North Carolina; died on 9 Sep 1894 in Covington, Mississippi.
    11. Joseph SIMMONS was born in 1812 in North Carolina; died in 1870.
    12. Benjamin SIMMONS was born in 1813 in Maury, Tennessee; died on 28 Apr 1834.