Ida Mae CARNEY

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• _UID: 31F58558B584416E8D3B259321B7CE586918
• Alt. Birth: 20 Aug 1890; Alt. Birth

Notes:

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Ida Watson, 20 Aug 1890, Apr 1974, 39437 Ellisville, Jones, MS 587-10-9131

First husband Charlie Hall went to the store for a loaf of bread, did not reuturn for years. Ida had him declared dead and remarried. Charlie finally returned and told Ida that he had expected her to wait for him.

Aunt Ida is buried next to her 2 husbands and son Porter.

Soc Sec Num:
587-10-9131

Alt. Birth:
,, MS

Family/Spouse: Charlie HALL. Charlie was born on 10 Apr 1869; died on 2 Nov 1962; was buried in Ellisville Cemetery, Ellisville, Jones, MS. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Jack HALL died in in Ellisville, Jones, Mississippi.
2. Ina HALL died in in , , Texas.
3. Porter HALL was born on 4 Oct 1913; died on 26 Aug 1965; was buried in Ellisville Cemetery, Ellisville, Jones, MS.

Family/Spouse: J. B. WATSON. J. was born on 29 Feb 1896; died on 29 Nov 1968; was buried in Ellisville Cemetery, Ellisville, Jones, MS. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• FamilySearch ID: K2NQ-TS7
• Name: Harnan CARNEY
• _UID: 619221E2C763495BBE8BFC13AC699915DFBE
• Alt. Birth: 1848; Alt. Birth
• Occupation: 1900

Notes:

Found on the 1870 Choctaw Co AL Census Butler Al p 423

John (13) and Maria (10) was living with him

Carney, H.
Age: 30
Gender: M
Race: W
Birthplace: MS
State: Alabama
County: CHOCTAW
Locale: BUTLER P O
Series: M593
Roll: 7
Part: 1
Page: 429A
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1900 MS Perry County Census born in AL, married 31 years, 13 children and 7 living. Father born MS and mother born MS.

Carney, Harmon
Lived in: 3 Beat, Perry County, Mississippi
Series: T623 Microfilm: 824 Book: 2 Page: 170

CARNY, H., 26, M, Planter, MS, # 155
Lidda P., 28, F, MO
Wm, 11, M, MO
Catharine, 9, F, MO
Jesse, 6, M, AL
Louisa, 5, F, AL
Harmon, 3, M, AL
No Name, 1, F, AL

1880 Census, Choctaw County, AL
Beat 10, Choctaw, Alabama
Birth Year <1848>
Birthplace AL
Age 32
Occupation Farmer
Marital Status M
Race W
Head of Household Harnan CARNEY
Relation Self
Father's Birthplace GA
Mother's Birthplace ---

1880
Harnan CARNEY Self M Male W 32 AL Farmer GA ---
Margaret CARNEY Wife M Female W 28 MS Keeping House SC GA
James L. CARNEY Son S Male W 13 AL Farm Labor AL MS
Lydia F. CARNEY Dau S Female W 10 AL AL MS
John W. CARNEY Son S Male W 8 AL AL MS
George W. CARNEY Son S Male W 4 AL AL MS
King A. CARNEY Son S Male W 1 AL AL MS

Alt. Birth:
,,AL

Occupation:
Farmer

Harmon married Margaret F. SATCHER about 1868 in Choctaw County, Alabama. Margaret was born in 1848 in Mississippi; died after 1890 in Aft 1890. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• _UID: C9FC0744D2C84C6C84ABEDCFB1E11FE6E44F
• Alt. Birth: 1848; Alt. Birth
• Alt. Death: Aft 1890; Alt. Death

Notes:

Margaret Ella Jones named after her grandmother Margaret.

1900 MS Perry County Census married 31 years, 13 children and 7 living. Father born SC and mother MS.

Margaret Satcher
1860 Census Choctaw County, AL

SATCHER,MARGARET,F.,F,12,MS,M,1,1,442,0,S326\n

1880 Census, Choctaw County, AL
Beat 10, Choctaw, Alabama
Age 28
Birth Year <1852>
Birthplace MS
Occupation Keeping House
Marital Status M
Race W
Head of Household Harnan CARNEY
Relation Wife
Father's Birthplace SC
Mother's Birthplace GA

http://www.clarkecomsgenealogy.com/1850cen2a.html
160-160 Lewis SATCHER 28 M Farmer S. C.
Emily " 26 F "

PAGE 159 (16 August 1850)

160-160 Martha SATCHER 3 F Miss.
Margaret " 2 F "
Rowland HUMPHRIES 27 M Farmer S. C.

Alt. Birth:
,, MS

Notes:

Alt. Marriage:
,Choctaw, AL

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• FamilySearch ID: LZNH-L4T
• Name: Bud CARNEY
• _UID: C37A973EAAE84515BA8F116F029B47A95477
• Alt. Death: 26 Apr 1893, Lusk, Choctaw, Alabama

Notes:

Harmon and Lydia's marriage recorded in Lawrence Co MS
Mississippi Marriages, 1826-1900
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CARNEY, HARMON M.
Spouse: CARR, LYDIA Marriage Date: 29 Jan 1837
County: Lawrence State: MS



Harmon is found in the 1850 Choctaw Co AL Census as follows:

H. Carney 26 MS
Lidda P. 28 MS
Wm 11 MS
Catherine 9 MS
Jesse 6 AL
Louisa 5 AL
Harmon 3 AL
Mary Jane 1 AL

1860 Choctaw Co AL Census

Harmon Carna 46 MS (notice the spelling in this census "Carna" HH #342 Bladen Springs Townships 9, 10, 11, 12
Lidia 30 MS
Alzeda C 20 MS
Jesse 18 AL
Louisa 15 AL
Harrison 13 AL (harmon)
Mary J 11 AL
John 8 AL
Duncan 6 AL
Gabriel H 3 AL

See my saved image of this census



1870 Choctaw Co AL Census HH 334 Butler Township 11

Harmon Carney 56 MS
Lydia 54 AL
John 19 AL
Duncan 16 AL
Gabriel 13 AL
Martha 10 AL

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Harmon and Lydia listed in the 1880 Choctaw Co, Al Census as follows:

#152 Harmon Carney 64 MS TN TN (mistake in age)
Lydia 56 MS US US
Martha 18 AL

These Carney were listed as going to these churches in Choctaw Co AL 1874

Carney, Duncan ----Pleasant Valley
Carney, George H. ----Brightwater
Carney, H. ----Pleasant Valley
Carney, Harman Jr. ----Pleasant Valley
Carney, Harriet---- Brightwater
Carney, John---- Pleasant Valley
Carney, Lidea---- Pleasant Valley
Carney, Margret---- Pleasant Valley
Carney, Sarah ----Brightwater
Carney, Susan ----Brightwater


1n 1844, Harmon acquried 80 acres of land in Lawerence Co MS as follows:

CARNEY, HARMON
Land Office: WASHINGTON Sequence #:
Document Number: 5864 Total Acres: 80
Misc. Doc. Nr.: Signature: Yes
Canceled Document: No Issue Date: May 07, 1844
Mineral Rights Reserved: No Metes and Bounds: No
Survey Date: Statutory Reference: 3 Stat. 566
Multiple Warantee Names: No Act or Treaty: April 24, 1820
Multiple Patentee Names: No Entry Classification: Sale-Cash Entries

Accession/Serial #: MS0470__.009 BLM Serial #: MS NO S/N
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Patent Description Legal Land Description Document Image Certified Copy
Aliquot
Parts Sec./
Block Township Range Fract.
Section Meridian State Counties Survey
Nr.
5 16/ 5-N 12-E No Washington MS Lawrence
10 16/ 5-N 12-E No Washington MS Lawrence

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In June 1, 1860. Harmon Carney acquire 240 acres of land in Choctaw Co AL, as follows:

http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/Detail.asp?

Accession=AL1560%5F%5F%2E211&Index=1&QryID=47321%2E84&DetailTab=2
CARNEY, HARMON
Land Office: ST STEPHENS Sequence #:
Document Number: 15846 Total Acres: 240
Misc. Doc. Nr.: Signature: Yes
Canceled Document: No Issue Date: June 01, 1860
Mineral Rights Reserved: No Metes and Bounds: No
Survey Date: Statutory Reference: 3 Stat. 566
Multiple Warantee Names: No Act or Treaty: April 24, 1820
Multiple Patentee Names: No Entry Classification: Sale-Cash Entries

Aliquot
Parts Sec./
Block Township Range Fract.
Section Meridian State Counties Survey
Nr. W?SW 11/ 11-N 3-W No St Stephens AL Choctaw S?NW 11/ 11-N 3-W No St Stephens AL Choctaw NENW 11/ 11-N 3-W No St Stephens AL Choctaw SWNE 11/ 11-N 3-W No St Stephens AL Choctaw

Legal Land Description:
# Aliquot Parts Block # Base Line Fractional Section Township Range Section #
1 W?SW ST STEPHENS No 11N 3W 11
2 S?NW ST STEPHENS No 11N 3W 11
3 NENW ST STEPHENS No 11N 3W 11
4 SWNE ST STEPHENS No 11N 3W 11
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1 5 WASHINGTON No 5N 12E 16
2 1 WASHINGTON No 5N 12E 16
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1860 United States Federal Census
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Carna, Harmon View Image Online
State: Alabama Year: 1860
County: Choctaw Roll: M653_5
Township: Townships 9, 10, 11, 12 Page: 431
Image: 434


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Carna, Hiram View Image Online
State: Alabama Year: 1860
County: Choctaw Roll: M653_5
Township: Townships 9, 10, 11, 12 Page: 447
Image: 450


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Carna, William J. View Image Online
State: Alabama Year: 1860
County: Choctaw Roll: M653_5
Township: Townships 9, 10, 11, 12 Page: 431
Image: 434


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Harmon married Lidda P CARR on 29 Jan 1837 in Lawrence Co, MS. Lidda was born between 1821 and 1822 in Mississippi; died after 1880 in Choctaw County, Alabama. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• FamilySearch ID: LZNH-L5J
• _UID: B15339B6815D47C791F847ACEE8AFACC9985

Other Events:

• Fact 1: Fact 1
• FamilySearch ID: LCZC-9GB
• Name: Jack
• _UID: 76F6C9CC6C214F429AE21B39B0034511F828
• Alt. Birth: Abt 1795; Alt. Birth
• Residence: 1850, Choctaw county, Choctaw, Alabama
• Residence: 1860, Pine Woods District, Catahoula, Louisiana
• Alt. Death: WFT Est 1821-1886; Alt. Death

Notes:

He lived first in MS, moved to AL, changed his name to Jack presumeably to prevent confusion, and moved back to MS. Buried 18 miles north of Alexandria, LA (according to one researcher)

1818 MS State Census Lawrence Co, JOHN CARNEY Jun.-1 male over 21, 1male under 21, 1 female over 21
JESSE SIMMONDS - 1 male over 21, 5 males under 21, 1 female over 21, and 2 females under 21. - 6 slaves

John Carney and Mary Ann Simmons were married in Maury Co,., TN, in 1815. Jesse Simmons' will lists one of his daughters as "Mary the wife of John Carney". John Carney signed for her share, Oct 27, 1832, in Lawrence Co, MS

1820 Lawrence Co, MS Census
John Carney: 1 m(16-26), 1 m(0-10)/ 1 f(16-26), 1 f(0-10)[TWP 7]

1830 Marion Co, MS Census
Carney, John, Jr. - 2 m(0-5); 1 m(5-10); 1 m(10-20); 1 m(20-40);/ 1
f(0-10); 1 f(10-20); 1 f(20-40)

John Carney on 1835 Lauderdale Co, MS Tax Roll (now in Lauderdale Co, MS)

1840 Lauderdale Co, MS Census, page 59
Jno Kearney - 2m(5-10), 1m(10-15), 1m(15-20), 1m(50-60)/ 2f(0-5), (The name is spelled Kearney here, but back to Carney later) 1f(40-50)

Harmon is next door as follows:
Harmon Kearney - 1m(0-5), 1m(20-30)/ 1f(16-26)

There is a John Carney listed on the 1840 Sumter Co Al Census also (Choctaw Co was previously part of Sumter). He is on the same page as Joel P Thompson.

John Carney 1840 Sumter Co AL

This family found in the 1850 Choctaw County Alabama Census.

1850 Choctaw Co, AL Census
John Carney 55 NC Planter HH 100
Mary A. 50 NC
Riley 22 MS
Hiram 17 MS
Mary A. 14 MS
Louisa 12 MS
Houston 6 MS
James L. 3 MS

H. Carney 26 MS
Lidda P. 28 MS
Wm 11 MS
Catherine 9 MS
Jesse 6 AL
Louisa 5 AL
Harmon 3 AL
Mary Jane 1 AL

An interesting fact is that in the 1850 Sumter County Alabama Census, there is a John Kearney listed. Choctaw County was previously part of Sumter County. This John Kearney lived near John Carney and Mary A Simmons. This John Kearney states that he was born in Ireland. It appears that his mother-in-law is also listed, as follows:

1850 Sumter Co,. AL Census

John Kearney 33 M Ireland (born 1817)
Hulda 33 F Alabama
Michael 1 M Alabama
Nancy Nucum 55 F North Carolina (Could be Mother-in-law)

Family is found again in Catahoula Parish:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/la/catahoula/census/1860/
This takes you to 1860 - Look down the list - click on - 0549.GIF
p. 123

Catahoula Parish LA 1860
John Carney 65 NC
Mary 64 NC
Houston 18 AL
James 14 AL
(Doris Kennedy kindly referred me to this information)

Other Sources: Over 500 pages of Notes, Records and Files at the Carney DNA Project Jim Carney www.avocadoridge.com/jim March 2010

Fact 1:
John Carney and Jesse P. Wallace lived 4 households apart in 1850

Alt. Birth:
Noth Carolina

John married Mary Ann SIMMONS on 1 Nov 1815 in Maury County, Tennessee. Mary (daughter of Jesse SIMMONS and Charity BUTTS) was born about 1800 in North Carolina; died on 14 Aug 1874; was buried in Black Creek Church Daleville, , Mississippi. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• FamilySearch ID: LXWW-LXD
• _UID: 8C571A21FC1A45109AEB149DDAB5E2A8D8DB
• Residence: 1850, Choctaw county, Choctaw, Alabama
• Residence: 1860, Pine Woods District, Catahoula, Louisiana

Notes:

John Carneyb. 1795 and wife Mary Ann Simmons in a Louisiana census. What were they doing there? Catahoula County...Pine Woods 1860?....

Notes:

Alt. Marriage:
Maury County, Tennessee