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Lucy De BRAOSE

Lucy De BRAOSE

Female Abt 1292 - Yes, date unknown

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Lucy De BRAOSE was born about 1292 in Bramber, Sussex, England (daughter of Giles De BRAOSE, Of Bramber and Beatrice De ST. HELEN); and died.

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    • FamilySearch ID: 9C74-FGP
    • _UID: 25F214C4520942DAB58BFB0771494B1ECBD0

    Family/Spouse: Robert De MALTRAVERS, Of Crowell. Robert was born about 1292 in Lytchett Matravers, Poole, Dorsetshire, England; died before 1322 in Crowell, Thame, Oxfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. John MALTRAVERS, Of Crowell & Hook, Sir was born about 1315 in Crowell, Thame, Oxfordshire, England; died in 1374 in Hooke, Beaminster, Doresetshire, England.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Giles De BRAOSE, Of Bramber was born about 1265 in Bramber, Sussex, England (son of William V De BRAOSE, Lord Of Bramber & Gower and Agnes De MOELS); died in 1305.

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    • _UID: 4C2EE3FDB69D4ED98179C19BA2A67713FC08

    Giles married Beatrice De ST. HELEN in 1st Wife. Beatrice was born about 1270 in Wittenham Manor, Wallingford, Berkshire, England; died before 1300. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Beatrice De ST. HELEN was born about 1270 in Wittenham Manor, Wallingford, Berkshire, England; died before 1300.

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    • _UID: 2ECAB72B1DDA4D9585FCD840A4416A2EC991

    Children:
    1. 1. Lucy De BRAOSE was born about 1292 in Bramber, Sussex, England; and died.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  William V De BRAOSE, Lord Of Bramber & Gower was born before 15 Jul 1224 in Bramber, Sussex, England (son of John De BRAOSE, Lord Of Bramber & Gower and Margaret Verch LLEWELYN); died before 6 Jan 1290-1291 in Gower, Glamorganshire, Wales.

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    • FamilySearch ID: K2XK-VRX
    • _UID: 44B65A8F3EC64E78B8D58B558B096FBCD926

    Notes:

    William was only 12 when his father died. The wardship of William and the de Braose lands were granted by Henry III to Peter des Rievaux. On his fall in 1234 these custodies were passed on to the king's brother Richard, Earl of Cornwall. When William came of age he took control of the Braose lands in Gower, Bramber and Tetbury. He confirmed the grants made by his father of the rents of cottages in Tetbury (they are still there) to the priory at Aconbury, founded in the memory of Maud de St Valery by her daughter Margaret.

    He was plagued throughout his life by a series of legal battles over land rights with his female relatives.

    See Cottages of Tetbury.


    William de Braose, in the 41st Henry III [1257], when Llewellyn ap Griffith menaced the marches of Wales with a great army, was commanded by the king to defend his own marches about Gower, and the next year he had a military summons to attend the king Chester. In two years afterwards, he was again in arms under Roger de Mortimer against the Welsh, and was one of the barons who became pledged for King Henry, abiding the award of Louis, King of France. He d. in 1290, leaving by Isabel de Clare, his first wife, a son, William de Braose. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 72, Braose, Baron Braose, of Gower]

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    Peter de Braose, half-brother of William, Lord Braose, of Gower. Peter's son, Thomas, was found heir to his grandmother, Mary de Ros (his grandfather, William de Braose's 2nd wife). [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage Ltd, London, England, 1883, p. 73, Braose, Barons Braose]

    NOTE: From the above information it is certain which William de Braose was Peter's father, for only this one William was summoned to parliament as a baron. However, in attempting to connect Mary de Ros to William, there are some pretty glaring date inconsistencies. e.g., William died in 1290, and Mary wasn't born until around 1298. It's possible the approximated year of birth for Mary is somewhat off, but surely not that far off. According to Burke, her father, William de Ros, was b. 1255, thus, she could have been born as early as perhaps 1271. Her father d. in 1316, and her grandfather died 16 June, 1285. Her 2nd husband, Thomas of Brotherton, was born 1 June, 1300. Had she been born as early as 1271, she would have been 29 years older than her 2nd husband. It's almost as if there had been two separate individuals named Mary de Ros, yet Burke says "Mary m. 1st, to William Braose, and 2ndly, to Thomas de Brotherton, Duke of Norfolk."

    William married Agnes De MOELS after 1260 in 2ND Wife. Agnes was born about 1230 in Cadbury, Tiverton, Somerset, England; died before 1271. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Agnes De MOELS was born about 1230 in Cadbury, Tiverton, Somerset, England; died before 1271.

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    • _UID: 64CF3C43A09643E69C7EF745C1C87550B5C1

    Children:
    1. 2. Giles De BRAOSE, Of Bramber was born about 1265 in Bramber, Sussex, England; died in 1305.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  John De BRAOSE, Lord Of Bramber & Gower was born about 1197 in Gower, Glamorganshire, Wales (son of William de BRAOSE and Maud De CLERE); died on 18 Jul 1232 in Bramber, Sussex, England; was buried in Jul 1232 in Priory Church, Aconbury, Herefordshire, England.

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    • Children: ; 22 Children (Margred verch Llywelyn)
    • FamilySearch ID: LH73-R16
    • TitleOfNobility: ; Lord of Bramber & Gower
    • TitleOfNobility: Stinton Hall, Norfolk, England; Lord of Stinton
    • _UID: 986260E6C51A4069B549D0800B04A6D49F16

    Notes:

    John de Braose, Lord of Gower, born c1197, died 18 July 1232 at Bamber, co Sussex from a fall from a horse; married 1219 Margaret, died 1263, daughter of Llewellyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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    Nicknamed "Tadody" by the Welsh when he was hidden in Gower as a child after King John had his father and grandmother killed. He was later in the custody of Engelard de Cigogny (castellan of Windsor) along with his brother Giles. Cigogny was ordered to give the two boys up to William de Harcourt in 1214. At this time John became separated from his brother. He was present at the signing of the Magna Charta in 1215.

    John disputed his uncle Reginald's claim to the Braose lands, sometimes resorting to arms. Llewelyn, Prince of Wales, helped him to secure Gower (1219). In 1221, with the advice and permission of Llewelyn, he repaired his castle of Abertawy (Swansea). He purchased the Rape of Bramber from Reginald and his son William in 1226. In that year John confirmed the family gifts to Sele Priory, near Bramber, and to the Abbey of St FLorent, Saumur, and added others. After the death of Reginald (1228) he became Lord of Skenfrith, Grosmont, and Whitecastle, the three Marcher castles, by charter from the king but he lost these in 1230 to Hugh de Burgh at the same time as Gower became a subtenancy of de Burgh's Honour of Carmarthen and Cardigan.

    See Castle of Abertawy, Swansea

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    Joan de Braose, surnamed Tadody, had been privately nursed by a Welsh woman at Gower. This John had grants of lands from King Henry III and was also possessed of the Barony of Brembye, in Sussex, where he died in 1231, by a fall from his horse, his foot sticking in the stirrup. He married, it is stated, Margaret, dau. of Llewellyn, Prince of Wales, by whom (who m. afterwards Walter de Clifford) he had a son, his successor, William de Braose. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 72, Braose, Baron Braose, of Gower]

    John married Margaret Verch LLEWELYN in 1219 in Wales, England. Margaret (daughter of Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH, Prince Of Wales and "Joan" Tangwystl Verch LLYWARCH) was born in 1204 in Caernarvonshire, Walesey, Wales; was christened in 1208 in Gloucestershire, England, United Kingdom; died after 1268 in Clifford Castle, Herefordshire, England; was buried after 1268 in Priory Church, Aconbury, Herefordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Margaret Verch LLEWELYNMargaret Verch LLEWELYN was born in 1204 in Caernarvonshire, Walesey, Wales; was christened in 1208 in Gloucestershire, England, United Kingdom (daughter of Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH, Prince Of Wales and "Joan" Tangwystl Verch LLYWARCH); died after 1268 in Clifford Castle, Herefordshire, England; was buried after 1268 in Priory Church, Aconbury, Herefordshire, England.

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    • FamilySearch ID: K4BF-BN8
    • TitleOfNobility: Clifford Castle, Herefordshire, England; Baroness of Cliford
    • TitleOfNobility: ; Princess Of Wales
    • Name: Margaret Ap IORWERTH
    • Name: Margaret ap Llewelyn FAWR
    • Name: Margred ferch LLYWELYN
    • _UID: 80D44BC0AD5C4C159F6F0DB4EE5C8C98065A

    Notes:

    Margaret, died 1263, daughter of Llewellyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales. [Magna Charta Sureties]

    The surname of LLEWELYN was a baptismal name 'the son of Llewellyn' an ancient Welsh personal name. Following the crusades in Europe in the 11th, 12th and 13th centuries, a need was felt for a family name to replace the one given at birth, or in addition to it. This was recognized by those of noble birth, and particularly by those who went on the Crusades, as it added prestige and practical advantage to their status. At first the coat of arms was a practical matter which served a function of the battlefield and in tournaments. With his helmet covering his face, and armour encasing the knight from head to foot, the only means of identification for his followers, was the insignia painted on his shield, and embroidered on his surcoat, the draped and flowing garment worn over the armour. Early records mention Richard Thwellin of Lancashire, 1618. Richard Luellyn and Elizabeth Bromwich married at St. Peter, Cornhill, London in 1715. William Gaunt married Mary Lewelling, St. George's, Hanover Square, London in 1776. The rise of surnames, according to the accepted theory, was due to the Norman Conquest of 1066. It is often assumed that men 'adopted' their surnames. Some certainly did, but the individual himself had no need for a label to distinguish him from his fellows. The development of the feudal system made it essential that the king should know exactly what service each knight owed. Payments to and by the exchequer required that debtors and creditors should be particularized. Monasteries drew up surveys and extents with details of tenants of all classes in their services. Any description which identified the man was satisfactory, his father's name, the name of his land, or a nickname known to be his. The upper classes mostly illiterate, were those with whom the officials were chiefly concerned and among them surnames first became numerous and hereditary. The associated arms are recorded in Sir Bernard Burkes General Armory. Ulster King of Arms in 1884. A notable member of the name was Richard Llewellyn pseudonym of Richard Doyle Vivian Llewellyn Lloyd (1907-83) the Welsh author born in St. David's, Pembrokeshire. He established himself, after service with the regular army and a short spell as a film director, as a best selling novelist with 'How Greeen was my Valley' (1939), a novel about a Welsh mining village. Later works include 'None but the Lonely Heart' (1943) and 'Green, Green, My Valley Now' (1975). This is an ancient name of Welsh origin and derives from an Olde Welsh personal name, "Llywelyn", meaning "likeness to a leader", from the Celtic "llyw" meaning "leader" and "eilun", likeness, although there is some dispute as to the derivation of the first element, since it may also derive from "Llew" meaning "lion" or from the Celtic god "Lugh", later Luel, whose name forms the last syllable of "Carlisle", (Caer Luel). In England the name was used in the forms "Leonline" and "Lewlin", while Shakespeare's "Fluellen" in "Henry V" is an English attempt to pronounce the Welsh correctly. The modern surname can be found as "Llewellin", "Llewellyn", "Lllewelyn" and "Llewhellin". David, son of Morris Llewellyn", was christened on the 27th June 1621 at St. Botolph's, Bishopsgate, London. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Tudor ap Lleyelyn, which was dated 1391, in the "Extent of Chirkland", 1391 - 1393, Wales, during the reign of King Richard, known as "Richard of Bordeaux", 1377 - 1399. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.

    Children:
    1. John DE BRAOSE was born about 1222 in Of, Bramber Castle, Sussex, England; died in Dec 1295 in Glasbury, Breconshire, Wales.
    2. 4. William V De BRAOSE, Lord Of Bramber & Gower was born before 15 Jul 1224 in Bramber, Sussex, England; died before 6 Jan 1290-1291 in Gower, Glamorganshire, Wales.
    3. Llewelyn de BRAOSE was born in 1225 in Bramber Castle, Sussex, England; died in 1283.
    4. Richard De BRAOSE, Of Stinton, Sir was born before 1232 in Bramber, Sussex, England; died before 18 Jun 1292 in Stinton, Norfolk, England; was buried in Woodbridge Priory, Woodbridge, Suffolk Coastal District, Suffolk, England, United Kingdom.

  3. Children:
    1. 5. Agnes De MOELS was born about 1230 in Cadbury, Tiverton, Somerset, England; died before 1271.