Johann Lewis Sr. REDWINE

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Apparently Ludwig Riedweil Sr. and Barbara Bchler had four children before they came to America: FHC film #247602
1 Johann Michael Riedweil chr. GR 22 Mar 1733
2 Johann Riedweil born GR 1 May 1737
3 Johann Ludwig Riedweil born GR 4 Dec 1740
4 Anna Margretha Riedweil born GR 18 Feb 1745
5 Jacob was born in America Oct. 1751
6 John was born in America abt 1756
The John B. 1756 is sometimes confused with the above metioned Johann B. 1737. Our best guess is that Johnannes B. 1737 either stayed in Germany or died before or during the trip to America.
the christening record of Maria Dorothea Grimm, daughter of Jacob and Magdalena Grimm in May 1729, it lists Johann Ludwig Riedweyl as an apprentice weaver, single, and son of Friedrich Riedweyl (Doc. #6). Also in christening record of his second child Johannes, Ludwig Sr. is listed as a yarn weaver, Doc.# 3 but elsewhere, as just a weaver.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Georg Fischer
To: Tex Dick
Date: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 7:45 AM
Subject: Record 8-Dec-1740
Dear Tex,
the first record is on 2 pages.
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[End of the first page for 1740:]
December Den 8. December wurde Johann Ludwig Riedweilens, Brger und [Mobeus??] alhier und seines Eheweibs Barbara, Shnlein welches den 4. eiusdiem geboren, getauft und [beginning of next page]
1740 102 December [faint overwriting in this place: " 12 ?", maybe "18"] Johann Ludwig genannt, Taufzeugen waren Johann Ludwig [A???] weyl: Theolbaldt [A???], gewesen Brger alhier [Hinterlosser??] ehel. Sohn, und Anna Apolonia, Friedrich Riedweilens Brgers alhier ehel: Tochter, beyde noch ledigen Wandels, wir
attestiren
[signatures:]
Ludwig ridweil Christian Melchior
als Vatter Fischer Pfrr.[= pastor]
[??] Ludwig A.
al gevatter
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On Dec. 8th was J.L. Riedweil's ["ens" is possessive grammar form], citizen and ?? here and his wife's Barbara little son, which was born 4th the same month [latin] baptized and Johann Ludwig named, bapt. witnesses were J.L. [some name] [??] Theobaldt [same name] who was citizen here [name] marriage son, and Anna Apolonia, Friedrich Riedweil's citizen here marriage daughter, both still unmarried, we certify [signatures]
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I cannot translate "Ehel:" properly without my dictionary,
it means that they were born by a marriaed couple.
The faint cross over the record would indicate that somebody else noted later that the child died (soon?), that occurs rather often, together with a year. But I'm not sure about this, and the write put a question mark also.
The name RIEDWEIL is rather clear, except that in the
signature it's RIDWEIL.
My [Dr. Fisher] picture is:
Friedrich = grandfather of the newborn son
Johann Ludwig = father, Barbara = mother
Johann Ludwig = son, born 4-Dec-1740, bapt. 8-Dec (this record)
Anna Apolonia = bapt. witness, aunt of the newborn
So long - Georg
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1749 - In the summer of 1749, a man by the name of Landenberger of Ebingen, who made frequent trips between Germany and America, brought back favorable letters from Hans Balthass Bitzer and Matthaeus Mautte. According to a report in 1749 by Mayor Venninger of Lauffen, preserved at Ludwigsburg, the letters are said to have "made such an impression among different families, that they even now appear to be intent on leaving next Spring." This resulted in the large Lauffen emigration of 1750, including some on the ship "Osgood."
1750 - Germany, Pfalz, Bayern, Immigrant's surname: READWILE Immigrant's given name(s): Johann Ludwig
Ship name: Osgood U.S. arrival date: 29 SEP 1750
Port: Philadelphia, PA Place of origin: Res: Freckenfeld, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany late of Cowes Source: Thirty Thousand Names of Immigrants, by I. Daniel Rupp
1750 - PA, Philadelphia 29 Sept., The ship 'Osgood' arrived in Philadelphia from Rotterdam, last from Cowes; William Wilkie, Captain, listed 480 [ or 180 "not sure"] passengers. Ludwig Readwile and Joh. Michael Rietweill were among those passengers.
Ludwig RIETHWEIL and his family most likely were taken to the court house where he then made his mark on the Oath of Allegiance and qualified, as well as his son Michael who was able to sign his name. Since Michael was over the age of 16, he had to qualify. The other children were under the age of 16, so were not required to qualify. Michael signed his name Rietweill to the document. Ludwig did not sign the document, but made his mark "LRW" and the spelling of the surname as "Readwile" is most likely a phonetic one by the court clerk.
1760 - 15 Aug 1760 Lodwick REDWINE of Granville County, North Carolina, for fifty pounds proclamation money, purchased from William Meadows of Orange County, 233 acres located eastward of Michael Peeler's and on the branches of Shillons (now Shelton's) Creek. The land adjoined Slaughter and Matheas. Lodwick owned this land when he died as it is included in the inventory of his estate. Source: Granville Co NC Deed Book H, p 364 (per Martha Redwine)
1764 - Lodowick Redwine appeared on the Granville Co NC tax list. This is the first tax list he has been located in. He paid one poll. The list was made by Col. Harris.
1766 - Lodwick Redwine was listed on the tax list of Granville Co North Carolina. The list was made by John Thomas and the number of polls paid has been blurred and not readable.
1767 - Lodwick Redwine was on the tax list of Granville Co NC when he paid one poll.
1767 - NC Granville Co. deed book H (1765-1826) page, 364 Lodwick Redwine of Granville Co. records land deed August 15, 1767 from William Medows of Orange Co. NC.
1768 - Lodwick Redwine was on the tax list of Granville Co NC as shown in tithables taken by Robert Harris. He paid two polls which included son Jacob Redwine shown. The law at the time in North Carolina set the white male poll at ages 16 and upward. Jacob would have reached age 16 in October 1767.
1769 - Lodwick Reetwile appeared on the Granville Co NC tax list and paid two polls. Michael Redwine appeared same list. 1769 - NC, Granville Co., tax list Lodowick Redwine 2 whites.
1770 - Lodwick Redwine was on the Granville Co NC tax list, paying two polls.
1771 - Ludwick Redwine appeared on the Granville Co NC tax list and paid three polls. This would indicate the youngest son John had reached the age of 16 years.
1772 - 22 Feb On page, 329 Granville County Unregistered Wills Lewis RIETHWEIL (signed in German Ludwig) wrote his will in Granville County naming sons Lewis, Michael, Jacob, John, and daughter Margaret Peeler, wife of Michael Peeler. The youngest son, John, was underage at that time. His wish was that son John was to serve his brother Jacob but for one year, then to be declared free. as of 1785 The original will, is in the care of the Granville County clerk of the Superior Court. The Will was filed in 1772.

Will Of LUDWIG RIETHWEIL / REDWINE
1772 - 22 Feb On page, 329 Granville County Unregistered Wills Lewis RIETHWEIL (signed in German Ludwig) wrote his will in Granville County naming sons Lewis, Michael, Jacob, John, and daughter Margaret Peeler, wife of Michael Peeler. The youngest son, John, was underage at that time. His wish was that son John was to serve his brother Jacob but for one year, then to be declared free. as of 1785 The original will, is in the care of the Granville County clerk of the Superior Court. The Will was filed in 1772
The Will of Ludwig Riethweil ( Lewis Redwine Sr. ) In the name of God amen;
I, Lewis Riethweil of Granville Co. in the Province of North Carlonia, being weak in body but sound in mind and memory ( thanks be to God) do make and ordain this my last will and testament in manner and form following, VIZ;
Imprimis, I lend to my loving wife, Barbara Riethweil during the term of her natural life or widowhood the use of all my stock and household furniture on the plantation wereon I now live.
Item: I give to my son Lewis Riethweil one Shilling Sterling.
Item: I give to my son Michael Riethweil one Shilling Sterling.
Item: I give to my two sons Jacob and John Riethweil to them and their heirs and assigns forever my tract of two hundred and fifty acres of land wereon I now live and if at any time after my decease the said tract of land should be sold the purchase money thereof to be equally divided between my two sons Jacob and John Rietheweil.
Item: As my above youngest son John Riethweil is at the present time underage my will and desire is that in the case of my speddy death the said my son John Riethweil is to serve his brother Jacob Reithweil but one year and then be declared free.
Item: My will and desire is that after the decease of my above loving wife Barbara Riethwiel all my stock and household furniture be equally divided between my several children to wit: my son Michael Riethweil, Jacob and John Riethwiel, and my daughter Margaret Peeler.
Lastly, I do appoint my son in law Michael Peeler and Anthony Peeler to be Executors of this my last will and Testament revoking and disannulling and making void all other wills heretofore by me made and in order that this be my last will and testament I have hereunto set my hand and seal this Twenty Second day of February 1772.
Signed Sealed and delivered and ordered to be his last will and Testament in the presence of us.
Signed..( his signature ).. Ludwig Riethwiel
Michael Peeler
Jacob Hoffman < Jurat
Anthony Peeler Jurat
Proved August Court 1772
NOTE: Clerk used the spelling of "Lewis Riethwield" an apparently the person signing was "Ludwig Riethweil.
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1772 - NC, Aug The inventory of Lodwick Redwine was recorded into Granville County Court in August 1772 which means he died between 22 Feb 1772 and Aug 1772. The inventory included the 233 acres of land he purchased in 1760. In this document, his name was shown with three different spellings, Lodwick Redwine; Lewis Riethweil; & Lodowick Redwine.
Obviously, the son named John who was underage in 1772 was not the same Johannes who was baptized 5 May 1737. In Mittelberger's diary, he said there were no less than 32 that died on the 'Osgood.' Freckenfeld belongs in the federal German state of Rheinland-Pfalz. Freckenfeld belongs to Kreis Germersheim, RegBez Rheinhessen-Pfalz, Land Rheinland-Pfalz The AGS is 07334005. The ZIP code is 76872
Following are some variations found while searching the name Redwine: Raedwine, Radewynde, Radewint, Radwin, Ritwell, Redewinus, Readwile, Rietweill, Redewinus, Redewyne, Redwin, Redwine, Redwile, Reedwine, Reetwhile, Reichwein, Reitweild, Reitweil, Rietwell, Ritwell, Riethweil. Source : "Ancestors and Descendants of John and Sarah and other Redwines," by Martha Redwine Nelson.
As the Palatine population grew in England, the Crown ordered a census made of these people. This inventory is preserved in the British Museum Library, London, England. It is from this inventory taken at Walworth, 27th of May, 1709, that we find Redwines. Lists of Germans from the Palatinate Who Came to England in 1709 are: Frederick Ritweil, age 32, wife, son age 2, Lutheran; and Jacob Ritweil, age 22, single, Lutheran. On Jan. 1710, a ship of Palatines sailed to America, arriving in Va. 13 weeks later. The Palatines were shipped across the Albermarle Sound to the Neuse River and placed on the south side of a point of land along the Trent River. There were also other ships coming to the Colonies during this great migration period of 1710- 1712, however, no document was found of Jacob and/or Frederick sailing to America. Source : "Ancestors and Descendants of John and Sarah and other Redwines," by Martha Redwine Nelson.
Other passengers on the ship "Osgood" included the following: From Lauffen were Ludwig Bitzer, Rudolph Christe, Jacob Koenig, Johann Matthias Spohn, Christian Stotz, Hans Balthass Stotz, Ludwig Stotz, and Johannes Wolfer. Hans Jerg Gutekunst was from Nagold. There was also a passenger by the name of Georg Becker who might possibly have been a relative of Barbara, wife of Johann Ludwig RIETHWEIL. There was a man named Johannes Seyl, but it is not known if this name might have been Seyler. If so, there might be a relationship to Peter Seyler whose son was baptized in 1755. Johann Michael Riethweil and his wife Christina were sponsors. Source 1: "Pennsylvania German Immigrants, 1709 - 1786"
"Probably most of you on the REDWINE list already have viewed the original Granville Co NC records, but it is interesting to see the different spellings in the same documents. I have some copies of original records of Granville Co NC which show the various spellings of the name.
A list of Taxables taken for 1766:
Lodwick REDWINE
1767 tax list:
Lodwick REDWINE
List of Tithables Taken by Robt Harris for 1768:
Lodwick REDWINE & Son Jacob

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I thought perhaps this might help to answer any doubts one might have. Seeing different spellings in the original document (and sometimes even different on the same page) should erase any doubt that Ludwig appears as Ludwig/Lodwick/Lodowick/Lewis and RIETHWEIL/REDWINE in the Granville Co NC records." "Imogene Bennett" Springfield, MO

Johann married Barbara BAECHLER on 15 Nov 1731 in Germany, Rhineland, Pfalz, Freckenfeld. Barbara (daughter of BAECHLER and Anna Barbara) was born on 1 Nov 1710 in Rhineland, Pfalz, Freckenfeld, Germany; died after Aug 1772 in Granville Co. NC. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Johann Michael Sr. REDWINE was born on 22 Mar 1732 in Germany, Rhineland, Pfalz, Freckenfeld; died on 13 Dec 1802 in NC, Montgomery Co..
2. Johannes REDWINE was born on 1 May 1737 in Germany, Rhineland, Pfalz, Freckenfeld; died about 1750.
3. Johann Lewis Jr. REDWINE was born on 4 Dec 1740 in Germany, Rhineland, Pfalz, Freckenfeld; died on 21 Feb 1809 in NC, Rowan Co..
4. Anna Margaretha REDWINE was born on 18 Feb 1745 in Germany, Rhineland, Pfalz, Freckenfeld; died after 1807 in NC, Rowan Co..
5. Jacob REDWINE, Sr., was born on 12 Oct 1751 in Northampton Co. PA ? Pittsburg; died on 25 Feb 1840 in Coweta Co. GA , Palmetto; was buried in Old Concord Ch. Cem., Palmetto.
6. John Sr. REDWINE was born about 1756 in NC, Granville Co.; died on 19 Oct 1800 in NC, Rowan Co..

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Doc # 09
Germany, Bavarian - Pfalz Freckenfeld Parish
Burials 1738 - 1779 ( FHL film # 247602 )
P. 361 nr. 40 1753
Johann Friedrich Riedweil, a poor man from here, born at Holtzerlingen in Wurttemberg jurisdiction, is by a very small . . . . . and died 23 Januar aged 70 years.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Georg Fischer
To: Tex Dick
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 9:28 AM
Subject: Freckenfeld archive records
Dear Tex,
I found Johann's birth record of 8-Dec-1740 soon, and after a lot of additional searching one of his sisters, Anna in Feb.1745. Among her godmothers is an aunt, and her grandfather Friedrich Riedweil is noted also as citizen of Freckenfeld. I copied these 2 records, and I will try to deciper them, and to translate what I can read. I checked up to 1750, but I did not find more RIEDWEILs (except maybe one as godmother). Before 1738, there seems to be no hope in that archive. Regards - Georg
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tex Dick
To: Marion Wolfert
Date: Saturday, October 17, 1998 4:11 PM
Subject: Friedrich RIEDWEYL
Marion,
Let me say we are quite pleased with the work you have done and the time
frame that you did it in. I know it could be quite a while before you receive this message or can make a reply to it. If I don't write it now I will forget about it. That is why I am writing it now so that I will not forget. I need some helpm understanding the time frame in the below record in your report were it says << ii. Johann Ludwig BAECHLER, born 5 Nov 1730 (witness was Johann Ludwig RIEDWEYL, a weaver, son of the deceased Friedrich RIEDWEYL) >> Marion I thought our Friedrich RIEDWEYL and father of Ludwig RIEDWEYL, a weaver died 23 Jan 1753 per the records sent us by Gary & Dr. Fisher. This is why I ask about the remarks in the brackets on the notes you sent us. Is this information a part of the source record of that time frame or is it just a reminder of yours as to who it refers to etc. ? Tex-

-----Original Message-----
From: GUENTER W WOLFERT
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 6:06 AM
Subject: Genealogy
The next part on the film were the christenings 1738-1779, records were searched from 1738 to 1760, following were the christenings 1722-1737, both sections were searched also death records from 1738-1751, and the following entries were listed: Johann David BAECHLER and wife Magdalene had the following children:
i. Catharina Elisabetha BAECHLER, born 28 Mar 1728
ii. Johann Ludwig BAECHLER, born 5 Nov 1730 (witness was Johann
Ludwig RIEDWEYL, a weaver, son of the deceased Friedrich RIEDWEYL) iii. Johannes BAECHLER, born 29 Mar 1733
iv. Johann Michael BAECHLER, born 17 Apr 1735
v. Maria Catharina BAECHLER, born 29 Apr 1736
vi. Johann Jacob BAECHLER, born 15 July 1738, christened 20 July 1738
vii. Maria Catharina BAECHLER, born 27 Nov 1740, christened 30 Nov
1740 She died on the 28 April 1742, age 1 year 5 month less 1 day.
Marion did not send a reply as of March 1999 and I guess it was just a remark made after the fact. < END >

-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Georg Fischer
To: Tex Dick
Date: Tuesday, July 07, 1998 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: the castle?
Dear Tex,
thank you for your email again. I think I could look for some of the dates which you mentioned in the 1730-1750 time frame, and to get record photocopies in the archive for these. I will have to make my picture myself, and better print out all what you sent me, but I cannot do this here in Frankfurt. Regarding the castle: "Russ" would be a very strange German christian name. If he was knightened, they would have any form of title in their name, "von", "zu" "Graf", "Baron" or the like. They underwrote with quite an ordinary signature, so I doubt that for Friedrich's line. I doubt that you can find a castle of your anchestors. At that time, they were rather well known, with their owning families. BTW, in German there is only "Friedrich". Frederick, Frederic are the English and French versions thereof.
It is reported in a book that a census was done 27th May 1709 at Walworth England of the Palatine population lately from Germany and in England at that time. This is what is given:" Frederick Ritweil, age 32, wife , son age 2, Lutheran; and Jacob Ritweil, age 22, single, Lutheran. They are listed as Husbandmen & Vinedressers. "

Okay, these names could fit, but not the time: 1709 ? That would mean that the Grandfather Friedrich left Germany long before his grandson Johann Ludwig was born ? Georg what does that last part in the above mean ?
I would say: the were married vine growers.
So long - Georg
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Rotteckring 19 Tel. +49 7644 913016, Fax 913018
D-79341 Kenzingen, Germany 48d11m32s North, 7d46m46s East

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For the marriage See doc. #11 or the graphic file, tex's#11.gif or .tif for picture of orig record as transcribed below.
Doc # 11
Germany, Wurttemberg, Holzgerlingen Parish
Marriages 1616 - 1777 ( FHL film # 1055754 )
12 Oct 1669
On the above date Daniel Riethweyl, son of Hans Rietweyl of Eyserthal in the palatine, married Barbara, daughter of Cunrad Binders, Leutanant. Text from the scriptures was Genesis 24, verse 58. They were married...
The list of the children given here for Daniel Redwine and Barbara Binder is from the christening records.
To do - Find the relationship of Eustachig Hiller and Barbara Hans Casper, Hutzel's wife, to the Daniel Redwine and Barbara Binder family.

Daniel married Barbara BINDER on 12 Oct 1669 in Germany, Wrttemberg, Holzgerlingen. Barbara (daughter of Cunrad BINDER, (Lt.) and Margaretha) was born about 1649 in Wrttemberg, Holzgerlingen Of Freckenfeld, Germany; died about 1720. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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To do - More research on this line.
-----Original Message-----
From: Krumrey Heinz
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 5:21 PM
Subject: BINDER Holzgerlingen
Hello
I am also researching BINDER from Holzgerlingen. In your Web site you have as your earliest a BINDER Hansin married to Catharina I have the following: BINDER Hans, born in Holzgerlingen, died in Holzherlingen married to N.N. Catharina, born in
Holzgerlingen, died 26. Apr. 1598 in Holzgerlingen Child: (I have only from one child the information, the others are in your web-page) BINDER Hans, born 10 Oct 1595 in Holzgerlingen, died 1 Sep 1672
married in Holzgerlingen to FROMM Barbara, born in Holzgerlingen Children:
1. BINDER Hans Jacob, born 19. Jan. 1620, died 11 Feb. 1697(all Holzgerlingen)
2. BINDER Hanss, born 25 Dec. 1628, died 3 Feb 1703 (all Holzgerlingen)
It looks like your Hansin and Catharina are identical to my Hans and Catharina. Have you got a little bit more information as on your Web page?
The Binder line is actually the line of my wife. I am born in Edenkoben, this is the village, Michael PALMER referes to in his reference "RIETWEIL Hans aus dem Berner Gebiet, bisher Hirt in Siebeldingen.
I have seen in your Web-page that you referd under "Cunrad BINDER, born 19 Jun 1601, died 20 Nov. 1668, in Plzas, Freckenfeld. Should this not be a typing mistake and read: Pfalz, Freckenfeld, ? (it is several times mentioned )
Best regards from Windhoek in Namibia, Africa Heinz and Janine KRUMREY By the way, we just returned yesterday from our 5 week vacation in the USA Heinz KRUMREY E-mail: [email protected]

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It was first thought Hans was of Eyserthal but this was later corrected by the orig. researcher to say he thought that was a mistake and now thinks the family of Bavarian - Pfalz, Annweiler, EuBerthal located just North of Freckenfeld, in the
Bavarian Palatine region of Germany, Euberthal can also be spelled Eusserthal.
See doc. #11 or the graphic file, tex's#11.gif or .tif for picture of orig record as transcribed below.
Doc # 11
Germany, Wurttemberg, Holzgerlingen Parish
Marriages 1616 - 1777 ( FHL film # 1055754 )
12 Oct 1669
On the above date Daniel Riethweyl, son of Hans Rietweyl of Eyserthal in the palatine, married Barbara, daughter of Cunrad Binders, Leutanant. Text from the scriptures was Genesis 24, verse 58. They were married...

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Is the Hans Conrad Binder on page two 4th paragraph of the report to Mary dated Dec., 16, 1991 the son of the Lt. Binder ?


Searching for surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA: ADDISON, ALLISON, CANADY, COLEMAN, CORBIN, COX, CRAIG, DEAN, FOWLER, GILLILAN, HALEY, GORDON, GRAY, HENSON, JAMES, McMILLIAN, McPHERSON, MOODY, NEWTON, PARKER, PASSMORE, PATTERSON, PAYNE, POINDEXTER, REDWINE, REID, ROY, SHIRES, SWANN, WEST, WHITMIRE, WOODALL

Cunrad married Margaretha about 1620 in Germany, Wrttemberg, Holzgerlingen. Margaretha was born about 1600 in Germany, Wrttemberg, Holzgerlingen; died after 1670. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Searching for surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA: ADDISON, ALLISON, CANADY, COLEMAN, CORBIN, COX, CRAIG, DEAN, FOWLER, GILLILAN, HALEY, GORDON, GRAY, HENSON, JAMES, McMILLIAN, McPHERSON, MOODY, NEWTON, PARKER, PASSMORE, PATTERSON, PAYNE, POINDEXTER, REDWINE, REID, ROY, SHIRES, SWANN, WEST, WHITMIRE, WOODALL