Andrew Jefferson CARNEY

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Notes:

2nd wife was Mahala Simpkins?? Not proven...

Found in census with Katherine and kids in 1880, Cheatham, Tennessee

Andrew married Katherine in Tennessee. Katherine was born about 1837 in Mississippi; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Isaac Wilson CARNEY was born on 2 Aug 1856 in Cheatham County, Tennessee; and died.
2. General Jackson CARNEY was born on 7 Dec 1858 in Cheatham County, Tennessee; and died.
3. Lizzie CARNEY was born about 1865 in Cheatham County, Tennessee; and died.
4. Albert W. CARNEY was born about 1865 in Cheatham County, Tennessee; and died.
5. Eliza CARNEY was born about 1868 in Cheatham County, Tennessee; and died.
6. Sallie CARNEY was born about 1870 in Cheatham County, Tennessee; and died.
7. Benjamin Franklin "Binerm" CARNEY was born in Aug 1874 in Cheatham County, Tennessee; and died.

Family/Spouse: Mahala SIMPKINS. Mahala was born on 18 Oct 1836; died on 5 Apri 1890 in Cheatham County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: KJ46-T62
• Name: Jesse CARNEY
• Name: Jesse T CARNEY
• _UID: DCC4BEC249F74B4A8A68558B331C73A22B90
• Residence: 1840, Davidson, Tennessee
• Residence: 1850, Davidson County, Part Of, Davidson, Tennessee
• Residence: 1860, 1st Civil District, Cheatham, Tennessee

Notes:

Jesse's tombstone is the only one still standing in the original family cemetary. Cheatham County was formed in 1856 from part of Davidson County.

At time of 1840 Census, four Carney families owned adjacent properties in Davidson County, Tennessee:
Ennis B. Carney 5 in household
Jesse T. Carney 5 in household
Joshua Carney 7 in household
Willliam Carney 3 in household
Asee (Asa) Carney 5 in household
and nearby a Brinkley household with 8 persons.

1850 Census Davidson Co. TN District 25

Alt Mariage Date: 27 Feb 1828, Marion Co. for Jesse T. - Could Rev. Jesse C. Carney be another person?

He and wife were land owners in North Davidson County on Little Marrowbone at the time of the Civil War. He received one or more land grants. Jesse owned slaves prior to war. The Civil War took both their livestock and their food. His grandson, Walter Davis, wound up living on a part of Jesse T. Carney's land at the time of Andrew Carnegie Davis's birth. The present house on that land has some of the original logs in its structure. Jesse T. Carney is buried on his former land; his tombstone is the only one there.

Jesse married Elizabeth "Betsy" PONDER on 4 Mar 1829 in Marion County, Mississippi. Elizabeth (daughter of John Reuben PONDER and Sarah HOLBROOK) was born in 1809 in Marion County, Mississippi; died in 1880 in Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Betsy
• _UID: 11C86480EB014228871EB2CA34DA954E25C9

Notes:

Married Jesse Carney on 4 Mar 1829, Marion Co, MS; they moved to TN.
Their son General Carney was a Free Will Baptist, according to Virginia Echols of Braxton, MS

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Notes:

Four Carney men were established in Davidson Co, TN by 1798. In July 1799 John, William and Elijah Carney purchased land as evidenced in Davidison County Court Minutes:
"(p.20) Isaac Earthman to oversee the Road beginning at the foot of the ridge thence to the head of Long Creek, down sd cr about one mile to a tree marked with a large O with all hands above Dry Fork East & West of sd Creek to wit Wm Smith Jno Carney Wm Carney Elijah Carney . . . and all taxables in sd bounds."

Elijah CARNEY and Vincent CARNEY bought more land on Dry Fork Creek the same day (6 Jun 1809) from Frederick Stump. All four of these men were listed on the rolls of the 1812 Davidson County Militia. John CARNEY and William CARNEY bought land on near-by Marrowbone Creek in 1812. William Carney Married Rebecca Gulledge, 22 Mar 1802 already in Davidson Co., Tennessee.

Document: Land Claims Ms. Territory 1789-1834 Claim Name: William Carney May 26, 1807 Orig Name: Edward Murray Quant: 1,000f. Situation: Bayou Pierre Derived: Spanish Aug 20, 1795 Note: Asignee of Edward Murray William died between 1846 (he witnessed a land transaction in 1846) and 1850 where Rebecca was listed as a widow with sister and grandson living with her.

Census of 1810, 1820, 1830, 1840 in Nashville, Davidson County, Tennessee show William Carney with matching family through the years.

William and Rebecca lived on Lt. Marrowbone Creek in NW Davidson Co. near the Cheatham Co. line. In a court transaction at the Archives, where Wm. was brought in to settle a dispute between James & Henry Carney. William witnessed a land transaction between his sons Jesse T. and Ennis Braxton October 22, 1848 but Rebecca was listed as a widow on 1850 census. Death estimated about 1849.

Per: June Carney Pollard Separate Baptist Church of Christ membership list kept by Reverend Heaton, Pastor of the Church (located on Marrowbone Creek in Davidson County, Tennessee (now Cheatham County) was the name of William CERNEY/CERNY as transferee to this church.

Reference: Davidson County, Tennessee Court Minutes - 1792/1813 May 13, 1808 - Court awarded Willilam KERNEY $30 for keeping and maintaining the poor of the County and Ulrick Carpenter. Reference: Davidson County, Tennessee Deed Records Warranty Deeds Index Book M - page 144 - Registered March 09, 1818 - William KERNEY bought 100 acres on Marrowbone Creek from John Stump on October 28, 1816 - Filed March 09, 1818 Reference: Book - "Pioneers of Davidson County, Tennessee" - By: Edythe R. Whitley "William Carney - member of 1812 Captain McCormack's Militia Company. These men lived in the area that later became part of Cheatham County. #1625 (Militia Member Number) William was a Farmer Per: June Carney Pollard "On October 25, 1810, William Gulledge and William Carney sold to John Morris, 50 acres of Willliam Gulledge's half land located in Robertson County, Tennessee" Reference: Book - "Tax List Index" Tennessee State Library - Nashville, Davidson County, Tennessee Page 86 Carney, William - 1798 - Sumner County Page 13 Carney, William - 1829 - Davidson County

John Blackburn witnessed the marriage of William Carney & Rebecca Gullage. Davidson County, Tennessee Court Minutes July, 1799 page 20 Isaac Earthman to oversee the Road beginning at the foot of the ridge thence to the head of Long Creek, down said creek about one mile to the tree marked with a large O with all lands above Dry Fork East & West of said Creek to wit: William Smith, JOHN CARNEY, WILLIAM CARNEY, ELIJAH CARNEY...and all taxables in sd bounds. Davidson County, Tennessee Land Transaction William Carney from John Stump July 03, 1812 Filed November 26, 1812 I-367 100 acres Marrowbone Davidson County, Tennessee Land Transaction William Carney - William Anderson December 29, 1829 Filed December 29, 1829 V 105 152 acres Little Marrowbone

At time of 1840 Census, four Carney families owned adjacent properties in Davidson County, Tennessee:
Ennis B. Carney 5 in household
Jesse T. Carney 5 in household
Joshua Carney 7 in household
William Carney 3 in household with one male 60-70yrs old, female 40-50 & 15-20
Asee (Asa) Carney 5 in household
and nearby a Brinkley household with 8 persons.

According to Joshua Carney census in 1880 at age 64, his father was born in South Carolina, Mother in Virginia.

Possible Arthur Carney Connection:
Arthur Carney took the oath of allegiance, Natchez Dist., 1789; petitioners, MS Territory, 1802

In 1797 he m. Celeste ann Brasher, b. about 1783. She apparently d. in childbirth the following year. Their daughter Elizabeth Louisa (or Louisiana) m. Joseph Nicholls; they resided in E. Feliciana Par., LA.

Mississippi Court Records
[p.4] ADAMS COUNTY 1802--
page 9

Eldergills, John.
2 November, 1807.
To Prosper King, 1000 acres of land in the Spanish Dominion of West Florida.
To Richard King, 1000 acres in the Spanish Dominion of West Florida. "I leave unto Richard King 2/3 of $3280. due me from the estate of Arthur Carney, amount now in the Supreme Court of this Territory."
Wit: James Stewart, Daniel Greenleaf, Hezekiah Clark.
Exrs: Felix Hughes and Morris Custard.

Early Settlers of Mississippi as Taken from Land Claims in the Mississippi Territory

Certificate Entered: 26 May 1807
Certificate: 795
Certificate Date: 19 May 1807
Recorded: Vol 3 Page 465
Claim Name: William Carney
Orig Name: Edward Murray
Quantity: 1,000f.
Situation: Bayou Pierre
Derived: Spanish 20 Aug 1795
Comment: assignee of Edward Murray

William married Rebecca "Virginia" GULLEDGE (GULLAGE) on 22 Mar 1802 in Davidson County, Tennessee. Rebecca (daughter of William GULLEDGE (GULLAGE) and Bathsheba (Barsheba) WATTS) was born in 1785 in North Carolina Or Virgina; died about 1851 in Probably Davidson, Cheatham County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: KLYS-MJC
• Name: Virginia
• _UID: AF965E1CC1C84664AD8B1B38EEE76BD89538

Notes:

Per: Robert Carney of Williamsburg, Virginia Rebecca may have had two brothers - William and Frederick Gullage. Tabitha probably ended up living with Rebecca after William Carney died.

Rebecca Carney age 65, found living with Tabitha (Gulledge) Dare age 60, and George Hampton in 1850 Census, for Davidson County, TN. - Living just down the road from son Asa Carney and family. Also in area is Jesse T. Carney and family, as well as Frensley and other familiar families on same census page.

Found Marriage record on page 69 of Record Book
Carney William to Rebeccah Gullage 3/22/1802 Bondsman - Edwd. Blackburn

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Notes:

!Source: Jerry Ponder's "Life of Abner Ponder," p 18
Reuben and Thomas Ponder, brothers, left Elbert Co, Georgia about 1808
and both served in the War of 1812, fighting at the Battle of New
Orleans. Both
were in MS by 1814 (tax list) and in Pike Co, MS, by the time of the
1816 state
census. They appear in the 1820 Pike Co Census and by 1840 were in
the Marion
Co, MS, census. They well may have never moved as Marion Co. was
cut from Pike
County. Shortly after 1820 Reubin moved to Rankin Co, MS, where he
raised a
large family and has many descendants today throughout the South.

!Reuben Ponder purchased 40 acres of land in Rankin Co on Aug 27,
1835, Section
13, townshipo 4, range 4

John married Sarah HOLBROOK in Aug 1807 in VA. Sarah (daughter of Edy HOLBROOK and Charity ROBERTS) was born about 1788 in North Carolina; died on 2 Sep 1863 in Simpson County, Mississippi; was buried in Floyds Cem, Everett Comm, Simpson Co, MS. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Notes:

!Source: Family sheet of Reuben Ponder developed by Virginia Echols
of Braxton
and handwritten notes provided me by Cartherisne Ponder who had
gotten the line
of Harmon Roger Thompson, PO Box 4341 of McAllen, TX 78502. Harmon
descends
from
Reuben F. Ponder, to James Madison Ponder to Lucy Ponder who m Joe
W. Williams
of Rankin Co, to Mae Williams who m James Franklin Thompson of
Rankin Co, to
Marmon Roger Thompson of Texas.

!Jerry Ponder wrote in his Ponder book that Sarah
Holbook was probably the dau of Ed Holbrook who lived in Elbert Co,
GA in 1807
and later moved to MS. (THE FAMILY OF ABNER PONDER was published in
1990.
Note that the Holbrook Family History developed by Sara Fulks of Texas
identifies a Sarah Holbrook as a dau of Edy Holbrook. Note also that
Sarah
Holbrook's brother was Thomas Pinckney Holbrook, the source of the
name
Pinckney used subsequently by several Ponder descendants.

!9/19/90 Today I received information and identification of Sarah
Holbrook
Ponder. J.C. Halbrooks of 357 Snake Meadow Hill Road, Sterling, CT
06377,
who has collected Holbrook information for over 10 years wrote: You
mentioned
that Jerry Ponder's book says Sarah may have been the daughter of Ed
Holbrook
.... Ed is really Edy, which is as he appears in the majority of
documents.
He was born about 1761 om (assumed as his father lived there)
Goochland Co, VA.
He lived in Wilkes Co NC where he is found in the 1787 state census
of that
county, along with many related Holbrook. He is not in the 1790
Censlus of any
surviving schedule. He and his brother, Jesse Holbrook, are found
in GA later.
His will, Nov 20, 1833 names the following children (it is not
immediately at
hand, so cannot starte that these full names all came from the
will....:
Thomas Pinkney Holbrook b ca 1808 GA d 1873
Sarah Holbrook
Son in Law Thomas B. Stanton who m Polly or Sally Holbrook
Berrian Holbrook v 1794, GA
Son in Law William Williams who m Jane Holbrook. Charity (Roberts)
is named as
his wife. She is possibly a second wife, they having married about
1792 in GA.
She was born ca 1762 land died Aug 25, 1852. Per his Rev. War
pension
application they were married the last of December 1792, Wilkes Co,
GA."

!5/12/91 Recent contact with Mrs. Sara R. Fulks of 908 Oakmont Lane
North,
Fort Worth, Texas 76112 resulted in her sharing with me a copy of
her "Holbrook
Family Notes" which takes the Holbrook line back to Ralph Holbrook
and dMary
Wilcockson in England.

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Notes:

John Carney was born in North Carolina around 1748-1750, as determined from censuses of him and his children. K. Johnson has birth as 15 Apr 1748. Most of his children were also born in North Carolina, but some (if not several), as noted on the Census rolls including sons William, Elijah and Vincent, and daughter Lucy - may have been born in east North Carolina/Tennessee. Martha "Patsy" Carney the last daughter was born about the time the family may have came up through the Natchez Trace in 1782/83 and settled in White's Creek, Davidson County, North Carolina (later Tennessee), which had just formed as a county in 1783. At that time, over 80% of western North Carolina was still Indian Lands which surrounded Davidson County isolated in the middle of this semi-hostile territory with only 200 able bodied men in all settlements. Until the Indian wars ended in 1795, only a trickle of settlers entered. It is important to note, that Tennessee was not formed until 1790 as it was entirely organized and ceded from western North Carolina. It is possible, some of the family children did not move far at all from their birth places and the borders were what moved.

It is suspected John Carney was related to William and Arthur Carney, who were Indian Traders found trading in these areas from 1783 onwards, in towns such as St. Augustine, Pensacola, Mobile, Chickasaw Bluffs, New Orleans Fernandina, Bon Secour, etc. Other traders of note were Turner Brashear, Lachlan and John McGillivray, John Turnbull, and others. Turnbull has a close family relationship with the Carneys as seem to be locally the Brashears (Brassiers) and the Leflore's

DNA testing of several Carney Family volunteers has confirmed the Mississippi John Carney (B: 1775) line is related through an exact match with 46 markers to the Tennessee John Carney (B: 1748) line. Despite other researchers speculation, we cannot merge Iklannabee into John Carney (B: 1748) who is believed to be his half-brother. Reasons: (1) This John Carney has children with sufficient documentation proving that they were born and partially raised in the North Carolina and then arrived in Tennessee territory in 1783 - Iklannabee birthdate firmed up about 1758 and would have been father at 12. (2) Iklannabee was Indian in appearance, and ? breeds were not then allowed to own land in Tennessee/North Carolina or serve as juror. (3) It is shown in several Censuses that John and his children were never mentioned to be anything other than white.

The plausible conclusion as evidenced by the DNA testing and rolls, censuses, land deeds, etc is that Iklannabee of Mississippi and John Carney (B: 1748) of Tennessee have the same father, believed to be the same Indian Trader who plied his wares in Indian Territory. The Choctaw Indian Territory extended from Mississippi to eastern Alabama and up the Natchez Trace into Tennessee.

The first mention of John Carney in official records is in 1787, four years after arrival confirmed when he was a juror in a trial. Reference: Book - Davidson County, Tennessee County Court Minutes 1783 - 1792 by: Carol Wells page 31 - April 1785 Court Session - "John Boyd vs Ja. Rains. Trespass. Assault & Battery (page 127) Jury: John Cox, C. Ruddle, William Crutcher, John Buchanan, Jn. Tucker, Moses Larracy, Sam' Martin, Samuel Desson, JOHN KARNEY, Wm. Gower, Mark Nobles, Ed Hogan, Ed Hickman. Wit. Francis Armstrong, Wit. Wm. Crutcher. Def' came to plaintiff house picked up a chair, knocked plaintiff down, bit his thumb.

The Carney men, John, William and Elijah are later mentioned on the 1798 Sumner County Tax Roll. Sumner County was formed from the right (east) portion of Davidson County. A year later, they are also mentioned again in a road improvement filed in Davidson County, Tennessee Court Minutes July 1799 page 20 Isaac Earthman to oversee the Road beginning at the foot of The ridge thence to the head of Long Creek, down said creek about one mile to the tree marked with a large O with all lands above Dry Fork East & West of said Creek To wit: William Smith, JOHN CARNEY, WILLIAM CARNEY, ELIJAH CARNEY...and all taxables in sd bounds.

Elijah CARNEY and Vincent CARNEY bought more land holdings on Dry Fork Creek on the same day (6 Jun 1809) from Frederick Stump. John CARNEY and William CARNEY bought land on nearby Marrowbone Creek in February, 1812. John Carney bought land known as "Edward Blackburn's old place" on March 25, 1812 - 40 acres on Marrowbone. This follows the worst earthquake in U.S. History which occurred February 7th in Northwest Tennessee where a vast land area drops several fee, tidal waves and a back flowing Mississippi River result in 13,000 acre Reelfoot Lake.

During the war of Independence from English rule, John Kearney (Carney) was assigned to The Army of General George Rogers Clark and Crockett's Regiment with Richard Brashear who was at Cahokia on 31 may 1780. John is believed to be related to Arthur Kearney, who married Celeste Brashear indicating at least a familiarity with the Brashear family further strengthening the connection to Arthur as John's relative. Most of Brashear's regiment resettled in Tennessee, Mississippi and Alabama. This would fit with John's resettlement of his family after service from North Carolina to Tennessee in 1783 following the war. Source Book: "Pioneers of Davidson County, Tennessee" - By: Edythe R. Whitley "The men in Captain Roger's Old Militia Company lived in the North East part of Davidson County from Dry Fork/Whites Creek to Sycamore Creek"

By 1790, The newly formed United States had 230,000 immigrants from England, and the second most prolific immigrants were 142,000 settlers from Ireland. Together with other immigrant nationalities and all their descendants, the population was now 3,929,326. In 1917, The Irish (later termed Scotch-Irish in 1970's), begin deserting Ireland following 100 years of leasing land with oppressive rents by absentee Anglo landlords and a crumbling linen trade, famine and droughts. The Presbyterians who predominated the Irish were disadvantaged by the Penal laws of the Church of England, but were just a likely to become Methodists and Baptists upon settlement in America. It is estimated over 200,000 Ulster Irish-Scotts relocated to America, followed my more when the potato famines later occurred. Most of the earlier settlers found there independent and unique ways were unwelcome in Boston, Philadelphia, etc unlike the potato famine refugees in later years, and found themselves traveling to the backwoods of America and the Appalachian region, settled almost exclusively by these Irish. The typical migration involved small networks of related families/clans that settled together, intermarried and avoided outsiders. After many years of English oppression in Ireland, these Irish were ardent patriots of their new land America.

Later, it is noted there were four of these men (John, William, Elijah and Vincent) listed on the rolls of the 1812 Davidson County Militia. John and William were in one regiment, and Elijah and Vincent were in another. It is believed that this John was not a participant, but it would have been nephew John Jr. (B:1775) , as this John would have been in his 60's. It cannot be ascertained with certainty if these Militia members were involved in only defense or saw any action in nearby states against the Spanish. Militia members were not entitled to land grants following the war, only those who served for three years in the regular military.

We find JOHN KERNEY in the 1830 Davidson County, Tennessee Census 2 males - under 5; 1 male - age 15/20; 1 male - 80/90; 1 female - under 5; 1 female - age 15/20; 1 female - age 20/30; 1 female - age 60/70; 1 female - age 80/90. This would indicate he was married as late as his eighties, but to whom it is not known.

The rest of the family is well documented in the area for years to come with children, families, extended families etc, but further mention of John Carney after 1830 is not confirmable in context to be our John Carney, and his death was believed to be around 1838.

John married Unproven. Unproven and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Notes:

I would love to speak to anyone who can PROVE who John's wife was... I certainly don't believe it was Naomi Knox and others put forward without proof.

From June Pollard, March 2006 (now deceased);
"Jim, Dr. Charles Hackett (deceased-retired prof. from the Univ. of TX in Austin) told me sev. years ago that Martha Carney Blackburn stated her parents were from "Maryland" - Dr. Joe Rude, a desc. of the Blackburn family of TX, stated before his death that the Blackburns always knew that John Carney was the father of Martha but did not know the name of Carney's wife...Charles speculated that just MAYBE the middle names Martha gave to her sons: Rose, York (maybe other names I cannot look up right now) would be a clue to her mother's maiden name..."

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• _UID: A4EF143C98984E73A3780A7643C1D0EB2EE8
• Residence: 23 Sep 1785, Anson, Jones Co., Texas; Land grant
• Residence: 1790, Anson, Jones Co., Texas
• Residence: 1800, Fayetteville, Anson, North Carolina
• Residence: 1810, Anson, Jones Co., Texas

Notes:

Will 31 Oct 1778 Prior to the War of Revolution, a father and five children came from England to America. Two of the sons fell fighting with the colonial army for American independence. One of the remaining three was numbered among the founders of the Mechlenberg colony in NC." Appears to have reached majority by 1737 (land left to brother is left in a trust) - Cashed out circa 1739 having already migrated 50 miles to the south to Edgecombe Precinct, NC. Began acquiring land in the Halifax/Edgecombe, NC area - source Clay Abrams.
In the will he left realty to his son by his second wife (Temple) "Briton" (Brittain) and directed that the remainder of his estate be divided equally "between all my children."

William Gulledge & Lum Hood Gulledge only Williams listed 1790, 1800,1810 Anson Co. Census-possibly had a son Eli Gulledge who married a Nancy and went to Spartanburg District, NC-possibly had a daughter Hannah who was a member of the Gulledge Meeting House 1801
A William Gulledge is listed as a buyer in the estate sell of Robert Jarmon 2 Dec. 1783, Deeds & Wills of Anson County by Halcomb pg. 138
A Jerry Gulledge along with Thomas Gaddy is mentioned on pg. 144 of same source
Data collected and researched by Dan Sullivan.

Per 1790 Federal Census: (first federal census)
Schedule of the whole number of persons within the Division allotted to Guilford Dudley
Anson County, North Carolina
Names of Heads of Families:
William Gulledge 1 2 4 0
Free white males sixteen and over including heads of Families - William
Free males under sixteen - Stephen, Thomas and William were all under sixteen - only two were counted
Free females including heads of household - Barsheba, Mary, Alice and Martha

William married Bathsheba (Barsheba) WATTS before 1770 in Anson, North Carolina. Bathsheba (daughter of "Trader" John WATTS, "Forked Tongue" and Gi-Yo-Sti-Ko-Yo-He BIRD CLAN) was born about 1746 in Tasagi Town, Edgecombe County, North Carolina; died in 1805 in Wadesboro, Anson, North Carolina; was buried in 1805 in Reverend Joel Gulledge Cemetery, Deep Creek, Anson, North Carolina. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: LC8W-GMS
• Name: Barsheba Watts
• _UID: A3A96B527B6D4529B3810557A6335AB9DB3F

Notes:

Bathsheba was born between 1745 and 1750 (best info 1746) either in Edgecombe County or near Anson County, North Carolina. She married William Gulledge between 1770 and 1772 in Anson County. I strongly believe that she was a daughter of Trader John Watts who married Gi-Yo-Sti-Ko-Yo-He of the Bird Clan. They were the parents of John Watts, Jr. otherwise known as Young Tassel. Evidence of this is the will of Malachi Watts (son of Trader John Watts) who died in Anson County, N.C. in 1804 and had William Gulledge as a witness to the will. Could Malachi Watts have been a brother to Bathsheba Watts Gulledge? Also William Gulledge and Bathsheba Watts had a son named Stephen Malachi Gulledge which is a clue.
Additional Source from Chris A. Clark.

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Notes:

!The relationship of Abner Jefferson Ponder to Daniel Ponder has not been proven as of this date 19 aug 1991. This appears to be a good guess for a wide variety of reasons, some of which will be explained below.

!The first known record of Abner Jefferson Ponder, born 1755, seems to be about 1781 when he fought in the Rev. War, probably at King's Mountain and Cowpens in SC. There have been several theories as to who Abner's father was; many serious Ponder researchers, including myself, have concluded that Daniel Ponder and Jemima Bennett were his parents.
Others have speculated that he was born in Baden, Germany, and migrated to the USD before 1780. Spence and Spence in their book, "A History of Hickman County, Tennessee," published in 1900 state that Abner J.Ponder was born in Germany in 1755. This possibility is supported by two other facts. The first is a letter written by Abner J. Ponder's grandson, Col. Abner Jefferson Ponder, dated 27 Jan 1904 from Doniphan, MO, to a Mr. Joseph Brown in Delaware in which the grandson writes that his grandfather was of (Dutch) German descent.
A second supporting fact is that in 1832 a large family named Ponder led by Valentine and William Ponder, came from Baden Germany, and settled in MO along the MS River and near many of the descendents of Abner J. Ponder. This could be coincidence since many other German families settled in the same area at that time.
None of these possibilities have been proven or disproved. So, to date, Abner Jefferson Ponder's life before 1781 remains a mystery. There seems to be no ties between the Ponder name and the English family names of Pounder, Pinder, or Pender except as misspelling by clerks and record keepers.
After the Rev. War it is known that Abner J. Ponder was in Virginia, furthering the possibility that he was the son of Daniel and Jemima Bennett Ponder who lived for a time at Buffalo Gap, Virginia. John Reuben Ponder, a son of Abner, was born in Virginia in 1785. Soon after, however, Abner J. Ponder was known to have been in Abvbeyville Co, SC, and by 1787 was in Elbert Co, GA. His second son, Thomas Ponder, was born in GA in 1787 or 1788. It is believed that Abner J. Ponder was back in Abbeyville Co, SC in 1790 and then back in Elbert Co, GA by 1791.
"Abner" was a very common name in the Ponder family. The Abner Ponder who
married James Knox and lived in SC and GA is often confused with Abner Jefferson Ponder, but that Abner seems to have been Abner Jefferson Ponder's
nephew, although that has not been proven either.
By 1806 Abner J. Ponder had moved his family to Hickman County, TN. An
account of this move if given in "A History of Hickman Co, TN," which tells of
Abner's settling at Bon Aqua Springs. In was in this account that Abner Jefferson was reportedly born in Germany. (See "The Family of Abner Ponder,"
compiled by Jerry Ponder and Eldon Dow Vandiver, 1989, published by Ponder
Books of Doniophan, MO, for a more extensive account of this move and for
additional information on Abner Jefferson.
While it has long been believed that Abner Jefferson was a Rev. War veteran, it was not until 1988/89 that Jerry Ponder, a descendant of Abner Jeffgerson, and the primary author of "The Life of Abner Jefferson Ponder," clearly proved his Revolutionary War service. On October 6, 1989, the Tennessee Daughters of the Revolution dedicated a grave marker to Abner Jefferson Ponder, a Revolutionary War veteran. Jerry Ponder of MO, Pat Saupe of Indiana, Catherine and Thomas C. Ponder of Texas, among others, attended this moving event. Pat Saupe provided me pictures of the guests and of the cemetery and headstone. Pictures of the event, including the headstone, appear in Jerry Ponder's "Life of Abner Jefferson Ponder." A twenty-year genealogical search had finally culminated in identifying most of Abner's descendants with the family history and clearly establishingh the war record of our progenitor.

In the census of 1830, Hickman Co, TN, page 62 we find Abner Ponder and Archibald Ponder. They also appear in the 1832 Census of Hickman Co, Tn.2

Abner married Jane GREEN? before 1785 in Buffalo Gap, Augusta Co, Virginia. Jane was born about 1770; died about 1791 in GA?. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Notes:

!Source: Article appearing in the Hickman County Times, 13 Dec 1990, upon the dedication of the Ponder Cemetery in Bon Aqua Springs, Hickman Co, TN, where Rev. War Veteran of SC Militia, Abner J. Ponder, is buried. On this occasion a Veteran headstone, marking Abner as a Rev. War Veteran, was placed in the Cemetery where Abner was buried.

Jerry Ponder of MO provided me with land plats from SC. After the Rev. War Col. Robt Anderson was given quite a tract of land to grant to members of his Regiment. One of Abner's plots given in 1783/84 was in the Ninety Six District, just North of Abbeyville District, near the present day town of Anderson, SC. Living near to Abner's grant in the Ninety Six District was Benjamin Green. Then living near Abner's grant in the Abbeyville District was Robert Green. These two Greens must have been in Col. Anderson's Regt in the Rev War and are most likely related to Abner's first wife, Jane Green. Members of the Green family moved to Hickman Co, TN, and lived next to Abner Ponder and some of them moved on to Ripley Co, MS, with Abner's descendents.

Along with Abner, James, Amos, and John Ponder were all given Rev. War land
grants by Col. Anderson. They all settled on good lands very near to each other in SC which means that they were probably brothers. It is almost certain that John Ponder was the son of Danield Ponder who m Jemina Bennett.
There has been no proof thart the others, including Abner, were Daniel and
Jemina's sons, but all evidence points that way.

Abner had plenty of land, but didn't seem to settle down until he got to Bon Aqua, TN. He was in the Rev War until 1781 then was granted land in Ninety Six District in 1784. He was in virginia briefly and was there in 1785 as Reuben was born there. Then in l1786 he received a grant in Abbeyville Districrt, but in 1787 or 1788 he was in Georgia, as Thomas was born there. His grant in SC was almost on the bank of the Savannah River, so actually all he had to do to move from SC to GA was to cross the river. He may have had land and businesses on both sides of the river.

Other Events:

• FamilySearch ID: LLSY-HWM
• Reference Number: 106
• _UID: 7397251E60F54936BB686520355BAF5860A5
• MilitaryService: 10 Oct 1780, Virginia; Private, Capt Kirkpatrick's Company, Virginia Line - American Revolution

Notes:

!Source: Jerry Ponder's draft for his new Ponder book. He noted
that Sarah
Holbrook b in VA in 1807/1808 was probably the dau of Ed Holbrook
who lived in
Elbert Co, GA in 1807 and later moved to MS.

!Source: Letter from J.C. Halbrooks of 357 Snake Meadow Hill Road,
Sterling,
CT, 06377. See notes under daughter, Sarah Holbrook Ponder, for
details on Edy
and his family, as well as wife, Charity Roberts.

!Source: Sara Fulks of Prodigy (TSKJ96A) provided me with additional
information on the Holbrook line, noting the children of Edy and
Charity,
noting that there may have been others. She noted that Edy m Dec
1792 in
Wilkes Co, NC and that he was a Pvt. in the VA line during the Rev.
War
enlisting Oct 10, 1780 in Goochland Co, VA and was discharged at the
Ponty
Lock in VA in 1783. He lived in Franklin Co, GA in 1824 when he
applied for
his pension. His Rev. War pension file is Number W 7796.

Edy married Charity ROBERTS before 1807 in VA?. Charity (daughter of Thomas ROBERTS and Winnifred Charity BUSBY, Holbrook) was born about 1775 in North Carolina, British Colonial America; died on 25 Aug 1852 in Franklin, Georgia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• FamilySearch ID: LLSY-HW7
• Reference Number: 107
• _UID: 88D6510389AB42CF9BB47C76B4F0F4906051

Notes:

!Source: J.C. Halbrooks' letter, dated 13 Sept 1990, in which he
notes that Edy
Holbrook m Charity Roberts in Wilkes Co, GA, the last of December
1792. He
makes reference to the Rev. War pension application of Edy Holbrook.
J.C. notes in a letter to me that Charity Roberts who m 29 May 1764
to Edy
Holbrook was the daughter of Thomas and Winnnifred (Busby) Roberts
(from Index
to M. Bonds filed in NC State Archives)

!Work of Sara Fulks notes that Charity and family were listed in the
Franklin
Co, GA, censuses of 1840 and 1850. Edy lived in Franklin Co, GA, in
1824 when
he applied for a war pension. He was pensioned May 2, 1828.