Lady Elizabeth DE VERNON, Countess, Baroness

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• FamilySearch ID: C6C7-5H9
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Notes:

Elizabeth Vernon, d. 29 Mar 1563; m. Sir Robert Corbet, Knight, of Moreton Corbet, b. c 1477, d. 11 Apr 1513, sheriff of Shropshire. [Ancestral Roots]

Elizabeth married Sir Robert CORBET, Sheriff Of Shropshire in 1497 in Derby, Derbyshire, England. Robert (son of Sir Richard CORBET, Sr. and Lady Elizabeth DEVEREUX) was born in 1472 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England; died on 11 Apr 1513 in Moreton, Corbet, Shropshire, England; was buried on 11 Apr 1513 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Dorothy DE CORBET was born in 1490 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England; died in 1540 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England; was buried in 1540 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England.
2. Lady Katherine CORBET was born after 1490 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England; died after 1508; was buried in 1586 in Pitchford, Shropshire, England.
3. Jane CORBET was born about 1498 in <, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England>; and died.
4. Joanna (Anna) CORBET was born about 1499 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England; died on 20 Dec 1538 in , Leicestershire, England.
5. Anne CORBET was born in 1500 in , Shropshire, England; and died.
6. John CORBET, Esquire was born in 1500 in Worthen, Shropshire, England; died on 17 Jul 1566 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England.
7. Robert CORBET, Of Moreton, Sheriff Of Shropshire was born on 24 Jun 1501 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England; died on 20 Dec 1538 in , Lyncheslade, Buckingham, England; was buried in 1538 in , Lyncheslade, Buckingham, England.
8. Dorothea CORBET was born about 1502 in <, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England>; and died.
9. Maria (Mary) CORBET was born about 1503 in <, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England>; and died.
10. Anne NEWPORT MORETON CORBET was born about 1503 in Shropshire, England; died before 1590 in Ashby Manor, Ashby Folville, Melton Mowbray, E. Goscote, N. Leicestershire, England.
11. Richard CORBET was born in 1506 in <, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England>; died on 16 Jul 1566 in Stoke Upon Tern, Shropshire, England; was buried on 17 Jul 1566 in St. Peter's Churchyard, Stoke on Tern, Shropshire Unitary Authority, Shropshire, England.
12. Thomas CORBERT was born about 1507 in Morton Corbet, Shropshire, England; and died.
13. Elizabeth CORBET was born in 1508 in <, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England>; and died.
14. Joanna CORBET was born in 1508 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England; died in 1623 in Of Langley, Shropshire, England.
15. Margaret CORBETT was born about 1512 in Of Hatherton, Cheshire, England; and died.
16. Reginald CORBETT was born in 1513 in Stoke Upon Tern, Shropshire, England; died on 19 Nov 1566; was buried on 19 Nov 1566 in Corbet Chapel, Stoke Upon Tern, Shropshire, England.
17. Margery CORBETT was born about 1525 in Hatherton, Cheshire, England; died in 1583.
18. Margerie CORBET was born in 1530 in Shipbourne, Kent, England; died in Jul 1601 in Shipbourne, Kent, England; was buried on 21 Jul 1601 in Shipbourne, Kent, England.

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• FamilySearch ID: LH7Q-C7K
• _UID: C02124524B2D4C64A267DB045473DB7F88F5

Notes:

Sir Henry Vernon, Knight, b. 1445, d. 13 Apr 1515 (will PCC 9 Holder), Sheriff, Governor of Arthur, Prince of Wales, built Haddon Hall; m. 1467 to Anne Talbot (d. 17 May 1494), daughter of Sir John Talbot, KG, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, etc. by Elizabeth Butler. [Ancestral Roots]

Henry married Anne TALBOT in 1465 in Shrewsbury, , Shropshire, England. Anne (daughter of Sir John II TALBOT, Earl Of Shrewsbury and Lady Elizabeth BUTLER) was born in Jan 1445 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England; died on 17 May 1494 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England; was buried on 17 May 1494 in St. Bartholomew Churchyard, Tong, Shropshire, England, Great Britain. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: MN81-J29
• _UID: D242280681FA468C8FB5DE80774BF63C25F2

Notes:

Anne Talbot (d. 17 May 1494), daughter of Sir John Talbot, KG, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, etc. by Elizabeth Butler. [Ancestral Roots]

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• AFN: 9GWX-4L
• FamilySearch ID: LRYF-NM8
• TitleOfNobility: ; Knight Constable of England
• Reference Number: HWS100850
• _UID: EF2772F2087E419F96BE484B34487E7536CC
• Occupation: Between 1449 and 1450, Derbyshire, England; Member of Parliament for Derbyshire
• Treasurer of Calais: 1450
• Estate: 25 Jun 1468; probated

William married Lady Margaret Pipe SWYNFEN about 1446 in Over Haddon, Bakewell, Derby, England. Margaret (daughter of Sir William (Pipe) SWYNFEN and Joyce DURVASSAL SPERNOR) was born in 1418 in Pipe Ridware, Staffordshire, England; died in 1460 in Tong, Shropshire, England; was buried in 1460 in Tong, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• AFN: 8J58-8C
• FamilySearch ID: MB6H-Y5L
• Name: Margaret Pipe SWYNFEN
• Reference Number: HWS100835
• _UID: 88420C38EFBF4030BA907067973185C66099

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• Death: ; Battle of Northhampton
• Earl of Shrewsbury: , Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
• FamilySearch ID: L1SH-R74
• LifeSketch: ; SIR JOHN TALBOT 2nd EARL OF SHREWBURY KNIGHTwas born 12 December 1413, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England, to General John Talbot Earl (1387-1453) and Baroness Maud Neville (1391-1423.) He married Lady Elizabeth Butler before 1445, Astley, Warwickshire, Eng
• _UID: 6EC16F83B72E4A1B9E0A68197DA708E6A64F

Notes:

Sir John Talbot, KG, b. 1413, d. 10 July 1460, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, Lord Treasurer of England; m. c 1444-48, Elizabeth Butler, b. 1420, d. 8 Sep 1473. [Ancestral Roots]

Note: Marriage date is off--doesn't agree with 7-34, which is on the opposite page, nor with CP.

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EARLDOM OF SHREWSBURY (V, 2)

JOHN (TALBOT), EARL OF SHREWSBURY, LORD TALBOT, &c., also EARL OF WATERFORD [IRL], 1st son and heir by 1st wife; born about 1413; K.B. 19 May 1426, at Leicester; served in France 1434 and 1442; on the Commission of the Peace, co. Derby, 23 November 1441; co. York (West Riding) 16 March 1441/ 2; Herts, 18 May 1443; Notts, 27 November 1443; King's Knight, before 27 May 1443; Chancellor of Ireland, 12 August 1446; Commissioner to treat for a loan to maintain the war, cos. Derby, Notts, Salop, 25 September 1449; Commissioner of Oyer and Terminer, Kent, 2 February 1449/50; P.C. before 21 November 1453; one of the Lords who undertook to keep the sea for 3 years, April 1454; Commissioner to raise money for the defence of Calais, 14 May 1455; summoned to Parliament 26 May 1455 to 26 May 1458; joint Farmer of the subsidy and alnage of cloths, co. and city of York and Kingston upon Hull, 5 August 1455. He was Treasurer of England 5 October 1456 till October 1458; nominated K.G. before 13 May, installed 14 May 1457; joint Keeper of the King's mews and falcons, 20 October 1457; Chief Butler for life, 6 May 1458; Chief justice of Chester, 24 February 1458/9; Steward of Wakefield 1459; Steward of Ludlow, 20 June 1460.

He married, before March 1444/5, Elizabeth, daughter of James (BUTLER), 4th EARL OF ORMOND [IRL], by his 1st wife, Joan, daughter of William (BEAUCHAMP), LORD ABERGAVENNY. He died 10 July 1460, being slain (with his brother Sir Christopher Talbot) at the battle of Northampton, fighting on the Lancastrian side, and was buried (with his mother) in Worksop Priory. M.I. His widow appears to have intended to take the veil after his death, but she had a Royal licence to marry whom she pleased without impeachment or hindrance, 6 February 1463/4. She died 8 and was buried 11 September 1473, in Shrewsbury Abbey. M.I. [Complete Peerage XI:704-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

John married Lady Elizabeth BUTLER before Mar 1445 in , Ormond, Leinster, Ireland. Elizabeth (daughter of James IV Le BUTLER, Earl Of Ormund and Joan BEAUCHAMP, Countess Of Ormond) was born on 21 Dec 1421 in Kilkenny Castle, Kildare, Leinster, Ireland; died on 8 Sep 1473 in Shrewsbury Abbey, Shropshire, England; was buried on 11 Sep 1473 in Abbey, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: FB9FBB161B4B40CE8314EEF785B36BCAC86C

Notes:

Elizabeth Butler, b. 1420, d. 8 Sep 1473; m. c 1444-45, Sir John Talbot, KG, b. 1413, d. 10 July 1460, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, Lord Treasurer of England. [Ancestral Roots]
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He [John Talbot] married, before March 1444/5, Elizabeth, daughter of James (BUTLER), 4th EARL OF ORMOND [IRL], by his 1st wife, Joan, daughter of William (BEAUCHAMP), LORD ABERGAVENNY. He died 10 July 1460, being slain (with his brother Sir Christopher Talbot) at the battle of Northampton, fighting on the Lancastrian side, and was buried (with his mother) in Worksop Priory. M.I. His widow appears to have intended to take the veil after his death, but she had a Royal licence to marry whom she pleased without impeachment or hindrance, 6 February 1463/4. She died 8 and was buried 11 September 1473, in Shrewsbury Abbey. M.I. [Complete Peerage XI:704-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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• AFN: 8J5R-BR
• FamilySearch ID: KT7Q-1T4
• Name: Richard De VERNON
• Reference Number: HWS93686
• _UID: 4FF7B44ADD074F61BC68255057B87EB3B184
• TitleOfNobility: 1403; Baron of Shipbrook
• Occupation: 1416; High Sheriff of Staffordshire
• Property: 1421; Hazelbadge Hall was purchased from Sir Robert Strelley
• Occupation: 1426; Member of Parliment for Derbyshire
• Occupation: 1426; Speaker of the House of Commons
• Occupation: 1445; Treasurer of Calais

Notes:

Sir Richard Vernon, Sheriff of Staffordshire, Nottinghamshire, & Derbyshire, Speaker of the House of Commons, Treasurer of Calais1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Last Edited4 Apr 2020
M, #11068, b. circa 1390, d. 24 August 1451
FatherSir Richard Vernon9,10 b. c 1368, d. c 8 Sep 1400
MotherJoan Griffith9,10 b. c 1371
Sir Richard Vernon, Sheriff of Staffordshire, Nottinghamshire, & Derbyshire, Speaker of the House of Commons, Treasurer of Calais was born circa 1390 at of Haddon, Derbyshire, England; Of age in 1411. He also had property in Harlaston in Staffordshire; & Reynoldston in Gower in Wales.5,8 He married Benedicta Ludlow, daughter of Sir John Ludlow and Isabel Lingen, before 25 November 1410; They had 5 sons (Richard, Esq; Sir William; Edmund, Esq; Roger; & John, Esq.) and 6 daughters (Margaret, wife of Sir Richard Roos; Anne, wife of Sir John Bradburne; Elizabeth, wife of John Vampage, Esq., & of Sir John Stanley; Bennet, wife of Sir Thomas Charlton, Speaker of the House of Commons; Isabel, wife of Nicholas Montgomery & of Nicholas Agard; & Agnes, wife of John Cokayne, Esq.)2,3,4,5,6,7,8 Sir Richard Vernon, Sheriff of Staffordshire, Nottinghamshire, & Derbyshire, Speaker of the House of Commons, Treasurer of Calais died on 24 August 1451; Buried at Tong, Shropshire.5,8
Family
Benedicta Ludlow d. 1444
Children(11 children)
Richard Vernon,Esq
Sir William Vernon, Treasurer of Calais+5,8 b. c 1421, d. 30 Jun 1467
Edmund Vernon, Esq
Roger Vernon
John Vernon, Esq
Margaret Vernon m. Richard Roos
Anne Vernon, m. Sir John Bradburne
Agnes Vernon+2,3,5,7,8 b. c 1422, m. John Cokayne
Elizabeth Vernon+11,4,6,8 b. c 1424, d. 4 Aug 1471 m. John Vampage and Sir John Stanley
Bennet Vernon m. Sir Thomas Charlton
Isabel Vernon, m. Nicholas Montgomery and Nicholas Agard

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no source cited:

14 June 1410 - IPM -Faulk Pembrugge - d- 24 May 1409
Held- Tong, Shropshire - Held jointly with wife Isabel - remainders to RICHARD Vernon s/o RICHARD Vernon, nephew of FAULK, & Benedicta his wife & the heirs of their bodies

Held - in Hereford & March of Wales - Ullingswick - Hle dloint ley with wife Isabel - reversion of manor j, held for life by WILLIAM Vernon, with successive remainders to:
RICHARD Vernon, s/o Richard Vernon, nephew of FAULK, & Benedicta his wife & the heirs of their Bodies, then 1/2 to WILLIAM Ludlow & Isabel his wife & the heirs of their bodies, & then to Joan her sister & the heirs of Her body , then to WILLIAM Ludlow & Isabel & the heirs of her body & failing all these, both 1/2 to WILLIAM Vernon s/o Richard Vernon, Knt,, the right heir of FAULK

Sir Richard Vernon of Haddon and Tong, married his distant cousin and sole heiress Benedicta de Ludlow, Benedicta's own mother Isabella de Lingen being first married to her own 1st cousin Sir Faulk Pembrugge and secondly to her father Sir John de Ludlow. Benedicta's mother Lady Isabella Pembrugge (n?e Lingen) founded the chantry College at Tong for the souls of her three departed husbands and is celebrated as the foundress.

Tong Church become the "Westminster of the Vernons" and contains these and other Vernon tombs. Isabella de Lingen mother Margery Pembrugge being an aunt of Sir Faulk, married Sir Ralph Lingen of Lingen. Sir Richard was also a descendant of the Pembrugge family via his grandmother Julia Pembrugge sister of Sir Faulk and was also the great nephew of Sir Faulk, thereby with his marriage, acquired the estates at Tong Castle, Shropshire and Harlaston, Staffordshire.

Benedicta de Ludlow, Lingen and Pembrugge Arms are recorded in Chapel stain glass window at Haddon Hall. Sir Richard Vernon (1390-1451) was High Sheriff of Staffordshire 1416 and 1427 and of Derbyshire, and Nottinghamshire 1422 and also represented Derbyshire in the House of Commons of which he was Speaker in 1426. He was Treasurer of Calais for some time until 1451.

His son Sir William was Constable of England and also served as Treasurer of Calais; his grandson Sir Henry Vernon was a member of The Most Honourable Military Order of the Bath (1441-1515), Governor and Treasurer to Arthur, Prince of Wales, married Anne Talbot daughter of the Earl of Shrewsbury and rebuilt Haddon Hall. Sir Richard Vernon was an English landowner, MP and speaker of the House of Commons.

Richard married Benedicta LUDLOW before 25 Nov 1410 in Over Haddon, Bakewell, Derby, England. Benedicta (daughter of Sir John DE LUDLOW and Isabel LINGEN) was born about 1396 in Hodnet, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom; died in 1427 in Tong, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom; was buried in 1427 in Tong, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• AFN: 8J5R-CX
• FamilySearch ID: GXXK-VY2
• Name: Benedicta de Ludlow
• Reference Number: HWS100867
• _UID: 13049480852C4361B0453F65C23C99ED9DDC

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• AFN: 9GWX-PJ
• FamilySearch ID: G71J-4CR
• Reference Number: HWS100883
• _UID: 85677F193D474789A2EA9888F03090053933

William married Joyce DURVASSAL SPERNOR about 1424 in Over Haddon, Bakewell, Derby, England. Joyce was born in 1391 in Spernall, Warwickshire, England; died in 1432 in Warwickshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• AFN: 9GWX-QP
• FamilySearch ID: MK8W-ZKD
• Reference Number: HWS100882
• _UID: 5A1E70EE25254D2CAA1C5318095A3756BAED

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• FamilySearch ID: LBXX-N35
• MilitaryService: ; General in the Hundred years War
• Name: John TALBOT
• Name: Old TALBOT
• _UID: E5D4D584D5024C6BB67F0D723D57FB9F8222
• Title (Nobility): 26 Oct 1409; 6th Baron Furnivalle

Notes:

Sir John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury (technically the Earldom was designated as being of "Salop" or "Shropshire" but ever afterwards, indeed in the grantee's lifetime, its bearers have been known as Earls of "Shrewsbury") and the 1st Earl of Waterford, so created 20 May 1442 and 17 July 1446 (when also made Hereditary Steward of Ireland) respectively, though called to Parliament 26 Oct 1409 by writs made out to Lord (Baron) de Furnyvall/de Halomshire in right of his 1st wife during her lifetime and as Lord (Baron) Talbot of Hallamshire) afterwards, also according to later doctrine 7th Lord (Baron) Talbot and 7th or 10th Lord (Baron) Strange (of Blackmere) on his niece Ankaret's death 1421, KG (1424), JP (Derbys Feb 1407/8, Salop & Staffs March 1409/10); b. c 1384; King's Esquire 1407; knighted by 1413, King's Lieutenant in Ireland Feb 1413/4 and March 1444/5, Justiciar of Ireland Jan-April 1425, campaigned Hundred Years War: Battle of Verneuil 1424, took Laval March 1427/8, also Nogent-le-Roi and was at Siege of Orleans 1428-29, commander at Battle of Patay June 1429 (captured but subsequently ransomed), took Patay 1433, Joigny 1434, Beaumont-su-Oise May 1434, Creil June 1434 and Clermont, created by Henry VI Count of Clermont end Beauvoisis (part of a policy pursued by Henrys V and VI of making their chief commanders nobles in English-occupied France with French fiefs), present at Siege of Saint-Denis Sep 1435, retook Pays de Caux 1436/7, held Le Croty 1437, Marshal of France by 6 April 1437, took Longueville 1438, reinforced Mezux 1439 and Pontoise several times, destroyed Poissy 1441, conducted Siege of Dieppe 1442, Keeper of Porchester Castle and Governor of Portsmouth Feb 1451/2, Lieutenant of Aquitaine 1452, retook Bordeaux Oct 1452 took Fronsac March 1452/3, finally killed with his 4th son (3rd here noticed) at the rout of Castillon (the last battle of the Hundred Years War) 17 July 1453;

married 1st by 12 May 1406/7 Maud, Baroness Furnivall(e) in her own right according to later doctrine (d. c 1423), daughter and heiress of Thomas Neville, 5th Lord (Baron) Furnivall(e) in right of his 1st wife, and had issue. The 1st Earl married 2nd 6 Sep 1425 Lady Margaret Beauchamp (died 14 June 1467), eldest daughter and coheir of Richard, Earl of Warwick by his 1st wife Elizabeth (only child of 5th Lord (Baron) Berkeley of the 1295 creation, and deemed by later doctrine to have been Baroness Berkeley and Baroness Lisle in her own right, though on her death, they would have fallen into abeyance between her three daughter and coheirs even by the same later doctrine. [Burke's Peerage]

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Sir John Talbot, KG, b. c 1384, slain at Castillon 17 July 1453, Earl of Shrewsbury; m. (1) 1406/7 Maud de Neville, Lady Furnivall, b. c 1392, d. c 1423, daughter of Thomas Nevill, Lord Furnivall, by his wife, Joan Furinvall, Lady Furnivall. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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BARONY of TALBOT (VII)

BARONY of FURNIVALLE (IV, 1)

EARLDOM of WATERFORD (I)

EARLDOM of SHREWSBURY (IV, 1)

John (Talbot), Lord Talbot, Lord Furnivalle (of Blackmere), 2nd son of Richard (Talbot), Lord Talbot, by Ankaret, according to modern doctrine suo jure Baroness Strange (of Blackmere), daughter and eventually heir of Sir John Lestraunge, Lord Lestraunge or Lord Strange (of Blackmere), of Whitchurch, Salop, b. about 1384; by his 1st marriage, before 5 Apr 1407, with Maud, according to modern doctrine, suo jure Baroness Furnivalle, he acquired the great family estates of the family of Furnivalle in Hallamshire, of which the castle of Sheffield was the caput, and, in consequence thereof, he was summoned to Parliament as Lord Furnivalle or Lord Talbot (of Hallamshire), from 26 Oct 1409 to 26 Feb 1420 by writs directed to Johanni Talbot, with the additions: domino de Furnyvall, or de Halomshire. He witnessed, as Johannes, Dominus de Farnevale, the agreement between Henry, Prince of Wales, and Rees ap Llewelyn, for the surrender of Aberystwyth, 12 Sep 1407. He was King's Esquire, bef. 25 Apr 1407, when he was granted the keeping of the castle and lordship of Montgomery during the minority of Edmund, Earl of March; on the Commission of the Peace, Derbyshire, 7 Feb 1407/8; Salop and Staffordshire, 14 Mar 1409/10; knighted bef. 15 July 1413; committed to the Tower, 16 Nov 1413 (a); Commissioner to arrest and imprison Lollards, 11 Jan 1413/4; Commissioner to enforce the Statute of Leicester against the Lollards, 28 July 1414. He was appointed King's Lieuteneant of Ireland for 6 years, with power to nominate a Deputy, 24 Feb 1413/4, being sworn in 13 Nov. He left Ireland, 7 Feb 1415/6, was present at the reception of Sigismund, King of the Romans (afterwards Emperor), at Dover, May 1416, returned to Ireland, Apr 1418, but left again, July 1419. By the death, 13 Dec 1421, of his niece Ankaret, according to modern doctrine suo jure Baroness Talbot, and the consequent failure of the issue of his elder brother Gilbert, Lord Talbot, etc, he became Lord Talbot (1331) and Lord Strange (of Blackmere) (1308). He was also, by inheritance from his great-grandmother, Elizabeth, wife of Richard, 2nd Lord Talbot, lord of the honor of Wexford, in Ireland.

He was with Henry VI at Windsor, 28 Sep 1422; ordered to prevent riots on the Welsh marches, 3 Oct 1422; nominated KG, 6 May 1424; Justiciar of Ireland Jan-Apr 1425. He was at the battle of Verneuil, 17 Aug 1424; Capt. of Coutances and Pont de l'Arche, 1 Jan 1427/8; took Laval 13 Mar 1427/8, Capt. of Falaise, 8 Nov 1428; took part in the capture of Nogent-le-Roi, and the siege of Orleans, 1428-9. He was one of the commanders at the battle of Patay, 18 June 1429, where he fought on foot with archers and was taken prisoner. He was exchanged for Poton de Xaintrailles, July 1433, and joined the Duke of Burgundy in his campaign, when Patay was taken, July 1433. In 1434, after a visit to England, he returned in command of 800 men and, after capturing Joigny on his way to Paris, took Beaumont-sur-Oise in May, Creil in June and Clermont, when Henry VI created him Count of Clermont en Beauvoisis. He was at the siege of Saint-Denis in Sep 1435; recovered the Pays de Caux 1436; defeated la Hire at Ris near Rouen, end of 1436; captured Ivry and surprised Pontoise, Jan-Feb 1436/7; saved Le Crotoy from the Duke of Burgundy, 1437; Marshal of France, bef. 6 Apr 1437; captured Longueville and other castles in the Pays de Caux 1438; revictualled Meaux 1439; at the siege and capture of Harfleur, and was made Capt. of the town, 1440; granted a pension of 300 gold salus a quarter, 3 Dec 1440; revictualled Pontoise several times and sacked Poissy 1441; Lord of Grasville-Sainte-Honorine bef. 1442; besieged Dieppe 1442. For his services he was created, 20 May 1442, Earl of Salop, in tail male; but he and his successors have alway been known as Earls of Shrewsbury. He had a licence for good service in France to absent himself from Ireland for 10 years and to receive all rents from his possessions in Wexford and elsewhere, 16 Mar 1442/3; granted for life 60 marks per annum at the Exchequer and 40 marks per annum from the petty custom in the port of London, 2 Mar 1443/4; godfather fo Elizabeth of York, Rouen, 22 Sep 1444; one of the Lords who welcomed Margaret of Anjou at Rouen, 22 Mar 1444/5; received outside London, Louis de Bourbon, Comte de Vendome, and the other French Ambassadors, 16 July 1445. He was reappointed King's Leiutenant of Ireland for 7 years, 12 Mar 1444/5, and was created 17 July 1446, Earl of Waterford [I], and made Hereditary Steward of Ireland. In 1447 he was one of the Commissioners appointed to treat with the Commissioners of Charles VII, 18 Aug 1448; one of the hostages for the surrender of Rouen, which he had bravely defended, Oct 1449. At the surrender of Falaise, 20 July 1450, he was held quit of everything in which he could be bound under the agreement made at Rouen, provided that he went to Rome, from which city he returned to England, Dec 1450.

Commissioner for the subsidy, London and Middlesex, 23 Jan 1450/1; Surrey and Sussex, Southampton and Wilts, 20 May 1451; Wales, 30 July 1452; Keeper of the Castle and Town of Porchester and Gov. of Portsmouth (for life), 17 Feb 1451/2. He was appointed to command the Army on the sea, Mar 1451/2, having been with the King at Canterbury on Candlemas Day, and Lieutenant of Aquitaine, 1 Sep 1452. After landing in the Medoc in Oct, he recovered Bordeaux, 23 Oct, and most of the Bordelais; captured Fronsac, Mar 1452/3. He attempted to relieve Castillon on the Dordogne, but in an attack on the French entrenched camp, he was slain, together with his son John, Lord Lisle, 17 July 1453.

He m. 1stly, bef. 12 Mar 1406/7, Maud, according to modern doctrine suo jure Baroness Furnivalle, elder daughter of Thomas (Neville), Lord Furnivalle, and only child and heir of (his 1st wife) Joan, according to modern doctrine suo jure Baroness Furnivalle, only daughter and heir of William (de Furnivalle), Lrod Furnivalle. She, who was b. c 1392 sat at Queen Katherine's Coronation banquet in Westminster Hall, 21 Feb 1420/1. She d. about 1423 and was buried in Worksop Priory, Notts. He m. 2ndly, 6 Sep 1425, at Warwick Castle, Margaret, 1st daughter of Richard (Beauchamp), Earl of Warwick, by his 1st wife, to whom she was coheir, Elizabeth, only child and heir of Thomas (Berkeley), Lord Berkeley, which Elizabeth was, according to modern doctrine, suo jure Baroness Lisle and Baroness Berkeley. He d. as stated above, 17 July 1453, and was buried at St. Alkmund's, Whitchurch, Salop, M.I. Will dated 1 Sep 1452, at Portsmouth, probated 18 Jan 1453/4. Writs of diem cl. extr. 10 Sep, 24 Oct, and 28 Oct 1453. His widow, who was b. in 1404, d. 14 June 1467, and was buried in the Jesus Chapel of St. Paul's. [Complete Peerage XI:698-704]

(a) At the same date he and his elder brother Gilbert entered into recognisances for 4,000 marks each, to be levied in Salop, to be of good behaviour. It has been suggested that his imprisonment may have been connected with the rising of Sir John Oldcastle, but his appointment as a Commissioner to arrest Lollards and to enforce the Statute of Leicester makes this improbable. He may have been committed to the Tower and subsequently appointed Lieutenant of Ireland to stop a feud between him and the Earl of Arundel arising from a dispute about some land in Shropshire. On the day on which he was committed to the Tower, Arundel entered into a recognisance for 10,000 marks to be of good behaviour, and Edmund, Earl of March, John, Earl Marshal, and Sir William de Roos entered into like cognisances for Arundel's good behaviour.

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From: Douglas Richardson ([email protected])
Subject: CP Correction: Marriage of John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, and Maud Neville
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2003-05-16 10:09:58 PST


Dear Newsgroup ~

Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 702 (sub Shrewsbury) states that John Talbot (died 1453), 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, married as his first wife before 12 March 1406/7 Maud Neville, elder daughter of Thomas Neville, Lord Furnival. No source is provided for the date of this marriage, which is a rather unusual oversight for Complete Peerage.

I've recently encountered a London record which indicates that John and Maud Talbot were actually married before 8 March 1406[/7]. On this date they were suing John Penros regarding their free tenement in the parish of St. Andrew Holborne [Reference: A.H. Thomas, Select Pleas and Memoranda of the City of London, A.D. 1381-1412, published 1932, pg. 279].

Maud (Neville) Talbot inherited this tenement from her grandfather, William Furnival, who in turn acquired the tenement in 1350 [see Husting Roll, 104 (76) (77) 149) (150)]. According to the editor, Mr. Thomas, the tenement was known as "Fournyvalles Inne" and consisted of 2 messuages and 13 shops. Maud's father, Thomas Neville, Lord Furnival, was suing Maud's widowed grandmother, Thomasine Furnival, for the same tenement the previous year (see Thomas, ibid., pg. 276).

John Talbot and Maud Neville are in the ancestry of two New World immigrants as follows:

1. Robert Abell

2. Grace Chetwode

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John married Maude De NEVILLE, 6th Baroness Furnival before 8 Mar 1406-1407 in England. Maude (daughter of Thomas NEVILLE, 5th Baron Furnival, Of Hallam and Joan FURNIVAL) was born on 21 Dec 1392 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England; died on 31 May 1423 in Priory, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England; was buried on 22 Dec 1423 in Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: GXQ1-PJM
• _UID: 5A699F6282D24A5D88EC3DC36199B09D7AF7

Notes:

Maud, Baroness Furnivall(e) in her own right according to later doctrine (d. c 1423), daughter and heiress of Thomas Neville, 5th Lord (Baron) Furnivall(e) in right of his 1st wife. [Burke's Peerage]

Maud de Nevill(e), de jure Baroness Furinvall(e) in her own right; b. c 1392; m. by 12 Mar 1306/7, as his 1st wife, Sir John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford, who, however, before his creation as Earl in 1442 was called to Parliament as Lord (Baron) De Furnyvall or De Halomshire (sic.) in right of his wife 26 Oct 1409, and d. c 1423. [Burke's Peerage, p. 2241]

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Maud de Neville, Lady Furnivall, b. c 1392, d. c 1423, daughter of Thomas Nevill, Lord Furnivall, by his wife, Joan Furinvall, Lady Furnivall. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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He [John Talbot] m. 1stly, bef. 12 Mar 1406/7, Maud, according to modern doctrine suo jure Baroness Furnivalle, elder daughter of Thomas (Neville), Lord Furnivalle, and only child and heir of (his 1st wife) Joan, according to modern doctrine suo jure Baroness Furnivalle, only daughter and heir of William (de Furnivalle), Lrod Furnivalle. She, who was b. c 1392 sat at Queen Katherine's Coronation banquet in Westminster Hall, 21 Feb 1420/1. She d. about 1423 and was buried in Worksop Priory, Notts. [Complete Peerage XI:698-704]

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BARONY of FURNIVALLE (VI)

MAUD NEVILLE, suo jure Baroness FURNIVALLE, elder daughter and heir of Thomas NEVILLE, LORD FURNIVALLE, and only child of her mother Joan, daughter and heir of William, LORD FURNIVALLE. She married, before 12 March 1406/7, as 1st wife, John TALBOT, 2nd son of Sir Richard TALBOT, of Goodrich [LORD TALBOT], by Ankarette, his wife. She was aged 15 and more at her father's death. On 3 May 1407 the King took the fealty of John Talbot, and John and his wife, the said Maud, had livery of all the lands which her father had held by the courtesy after the death of Joan his wife, and also of Maud's moiety of the tenements which her father had held in his demesne as of fee. [Complete Peerage V:591, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Notes:

Alt. Marriage:
1st wife

Other Events:

• AFN: 9HL7-1B
• Alt. Burial: Saint Marys Abbey, Dublin, County Dublin, Ireland
• Earl of Ormund: , Ormond, Leinster, Ireland
• FamilySearch ID: LHN8-SBG
• TitleOfNobility: ; 4th Earl of Ormond
• Name: James IV Le BOTILLER
• Reference Number: HWS33088
• _UID: F31259AE6F514AB38F69D87B509101665CF9
• TitleOfNobility: 1405; appointed Lord Deputy of Ireland
• had a grant of the temporalities of the See of Cashel for 10 years,: 1440; following the death of the Archbishop of Cashel, Richard O'Hedian

Notes:

James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormond (23 May 1393 ? 23 August 1452) was the son of James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormond. He was called "The White Earl," and was esteemed for his learning. He was the patron of the Irish literary work, "The Book of the White Earl." His career was marked by his long and bitter feud with the Talbot family.

James Butler was the second but eldest surviving son of James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormond, and his first wife Anne Welles, daughter of John de Welles, 4th Baron Welles by Maude de Ros, daughter of William de Ros, 2nd Baron de Ros of Helmsley.

He prevailed upon Henry V to create a King of Arms in Ireland, with the title of Ireland King of Arms (altered by Edward VI to Ulster King of Arms), and he gave lands in perpetuity to the College of Heralds, London. He was appointed Lord Deputy of Ireland in 1405, and Lord Lieutenant of Ireland in 1420, 1425, and 1442. He appointed James FitzGerald, 6th Earl of Desmond as Seneschal of Imokilly in 1420.

His term as Lord Lieutenant was marked by his bitter feud with the Talbot family, headed by John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, and his brother Richard, Archbishop of Dublin. The dispute reached its height in 1442 when Archbishop Talbot, supposedly acting on behalf of the Irish Parliament, presented the Privy Council with a long list of grievances against Ormond, who was accused of being old and feeble (in fact he was only fifty, which was not considered a great age even in the fifteenth century), and of having lost most of his Irish estates through negligence; there were also vague references to treason and "other crimes which could not be named." The Council summoned Ormond to account for his actions: he defended himself vigorously, and made detailed counter-charges against the Archbishop. The Council took no action against him. Instead, it rebuked both sides of the dispute severely for disrupting the good governance of Ireland. The feud gradually cooled off, and friendly relations between the two families were finally established by the marriage of Ormond's daughter Elizabeth to Shrewsbury's son and heir John.

Ormond remained an influential figure in Irish politics, although his later years were troubled by fresh quarrels with the Earl of Desmond, with Giles Thorndon, the Treasurer of Ireland, with Thomas Fitzgerald, Prior of the Knights Hospitaller at Kilmainham, and with Richard Wogan, the Lord Chancellor of Ireland. Wogan, in particular, complained that he was no longer able to endure the burden of Ormond's "heavy lordship" and asked to be allowed to deputize his duties. Relations between Ormond and Prior Fitzgerald became so bad that in 1444 it was seriously suggested that they settle the matter through trial by combat, but King Henry VI intervened personally to persuade them to make peace.

In 1440, Ormond had a grant of the temporalities of the See of Cashel for ten years, following the death of the Archbishop of Cashel, Richard O'Hedian. He built the castles of Nenagh, Roscrea and Templemore in North County Tipperary and Tulleophelim (or Tullowphelim) in County Carlow. He gave the manor and advowson of Hickcote in Buckinghamshire to the Hospital of St Thomas of Acre in London, which was confirmed by the Parliament of England (in the third year of Henry VI) at the suit of his son.

Since his father-in-law had no surviving son, Ormond, in right of his second wife Elizabeth, claimed possession of the Earldom of Kildare, and for some years he was able to keep the legitimate heir out of his inheritance.

He died in Dublin on 23 August 1452 on his return from an expedition against Connor O'Mulrian, and was buried in St. Mary's Abbey near Dublin.

He married firstly, in 1413, Joan Beauchamp (1396? 1430), the daughter of William de Beauchamp, 1st Baron Bergavenny and Joan FitzAlan, by whom he had three sons and two daughters:

. James Butler, 5th Earl of Ormond, who died without any legitimate children.
. John Butler, 6th Earl of Ormond, who died without any legitimate children.
. Thomas Butler, 7th Earl of Ormond.
. Elizabeth Butler, who married John Talbot, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury.
. Anne Butler, who died unmarried.

He married secondly, by license dated 18 July 1432, Elizabeth FitzGerald (c. 1398 ? 6 August 1452), widow of John Grey, 2nd Baron Grey of Codnor (died 14 September 1430), and daughter of Gerald FitzGerald, 5th Earl of Kildare and his second wife Agnes Darcy, by whom he had no children.

-- Wikiwand: James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormond
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James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormond, Lieutenant of Ireland. Also known as the White Earl.

Son of James Butler and Anne Welles, daughter of John de Welle and Maud de Roos.

Husband of Joan de Beauchamp, daughter of William de Beauchamp and Joan FitzAlan Arundel. They had three sons and two daughters:
* Sir James, Knight of the Garter, 5th Earl of Ormond
* Sir John, 6th Earl of Ormond
* Sir Thomas, Knight of the Bath
* Elizabeth m John Talbot (created peace between the families)
* Anne

After Joan died, he remarried Elizabeth FitzGerald by papal dispensation dated 29 April 1432 and royal licence dated 18 July 1432, daughter of Gerald FitzMaurice and Agnes Darcy, widow of Sir John Grey who died 1430. They had no children.

1405 - appointed Lord Deputy of Ireland
1412 - accompanied Thomas, Earl of Lancaster to France
1420 - appointed Lieutenant of Ireland
1422 - Sir John Talbot arraigned him for treason, the crown ordered a stop to the proceedings
1430 - Joan died, buried at St Thomas of Acon
1432 - married Elizabeth FitzGerald
1442 - Archbishop Talbot present a long list of grievances concerning Butler to the Privy Council, who reprimanded both sides for "disrupting the good governance of Ireland."
1447 - accused of high treason by John Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury, again, the crown came to his rescue declaring "no one should dare, on pain of his indignation, to revive the accusation or reproach of his conduct."
1452 - Elizabeth died, burial unknown

James Butler died estate at Ardee, Co Loth, Ireland on his return from an expedition against Connor O'Mulrian and was buried at St Mary's in Dublin.

James was called The White Earl and admired for his learning, and was the patron of the Irish literary work, 'The Book of the White Earl'. His political career was marred by a bitter feud with the Talbot family. He built the castles of Nenagh, Roscrea and Templemore in north Tipperary and Tulleophelim (or Tullowphelim) in County Carlow. He gave the manor and advowson of Hickcote in Buckinghamshire to the Hospital of St. Thomas D'Acres in London, which was confirmed by Parliament at the suit of his son.

-- Find a Grave: James le Butler IV
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James Butler 4th Earl of Ormonde
King of Arms, Lord Lieutenant of Island

James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormonde, b. 1392, d. 22 August 1452. He was the son of James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormonde, and Anne Welles. He married, secondly, Lady Joan FitzGerald, daughter of Gerald FitzMaurice FitzGerald, 5th Earl of Kildare and Margaret Rocheford, in 1432. He died on 22 August 1452. James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormonde also went by the nick-name of 'the White Earl'. He gained the title of 4th Earl of Ormonde. He has an extensive biographical entry in the Dictionary of National Biography.

Children of James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormonde and Elizabeth Beauchamp:

1. Elizabeth Butler+ d. 8 Sep 1473

source: Rootsweb.com

James "the White Earl: Butler

James married Joan BEAUCHAMP, Countess Of Ormond before 28 Aug 1413 in Ormonde, Kerry, Munster, Ireland. Joan (daughter of Sir. William BEAUCHAMP, Baron and Joan FITZALAN, Baroness Of Abergavenny) was born about 1396 in Abergavenny, Gwent Uwch Coed, Monmouth, Wales; died on 3 Aug 1430 in , Shere, Surrey, England; was buried on 8 Aug 1430 in St. Thomas Acon, London, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• AFN: 9HL7-2H
• Countess of Ormond: Ormonde, Kerry, Munster, Ireland
• FamilySearch ID: LBMG-YKZ
• Reference Number: HWS20355
• _UID: 8C9F7DA682C4429FB126944CC39698708DF8