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Daughter Of Crinan Lay Abbot Of DUNKELD

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Name Daughter Of Crinan Lay Abbot Of DUNKELD Birth Abt 1010 Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland Gender Female Name Miss De MORMAER _UID DFE53A34C58F417897E2D2052361A52AE25C Death Yes, date unknown Person ID I11727 Carney Wehofer July 2025 Last Modified 5 Feb 2012
Father Crinan The Thane Lay Abbot Of DUNKELD, b. 978, Dunkeld, Perthshire, Scotland d. 1045, Killed In Battle Against Macbeth, Who (1040) Slew His Son Duncan
(Age 67 years)
Mother Bethoc (Beatrix) Princess Of SCOTLAND, b. Abt 984, Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland d. 1045, Scotland
(Age ~ 61 years)
Marriage 1000 Scotland [1]
Family ID F5356 Group Sheet | Family Chart
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Notes - The following post-em from Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com, puts doubt on her name (at minimum) and probably even her existence. I can't say that I disagree (Marmaer is a title, not usually a name).
I've seen this listed this way all over the internet. Also her gf is listed as "Lord of Mormaer", from Paget. To my knowledge Mormaer was a title not a place. So saying Lord of Mormaer is thus redundant. Also "of" or "de" Mormaer is like saying a king's dau was called (?) of King or (?) de King. (And why the French "de" in Scotland in the 900's?)
It is also doubtful that Crínán's dau would ever be titled Mormaer. If she inherited the honor, which is extremely doubtful considering she had brothers, her husband would have carried the title not her. Whether there was a special title for the wife of a Mormaer (eg; an English earl's wife = countess), I am unaware of what it was.
If you find that I am wrong about this, I would be most grateful should you be so kind as to let me know. Thanks.
Regards,
Curt
- The following post-em from Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com, puts doubt on her name (at minimum) and probably even her existence. I can't say that I disagree (Marmaer is a title, not usually a name).
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Sources - [S845] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 170-19 (Reliability: 3).
- [S845] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 170-19 (Reliability: 3).