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Ellen De LA ROCHE, Heiress Of Bromwich[1]
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Name Ellen De LA ROCHE [2] Suffix Heiress Of Bromwich Birth Abt 1393 Castle Bromwich, Warwickshire, England
Gender Female Name Elene Roche [3] Name Helen Roche [3] _FSFTID G7RC-T7P _FSLINK https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G7RC-T7P _UID EF0CECBCE1524FC49175BC095F2853AF3DBD Burial 1440 Meriden, Warwickshire, England
[3] Death 4 Nov 1440 Nether Whitacre, Meriden, Warwickshire, England
[2] Person ID I12924 Carney Wehofer July 2025 Last Modified 17 Dec 2024
Father Thomas ROCHE, b. 1372, Castle Bromwich, Warwickshire, England
d. 4 Nov 1440, Castle Bromwich, Warwickshire, England
(Age 68 years) Mother Elizabeth BERMINGHAM, b. 1375, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
d. 1447, Warwickshire, England
(Age 72 years) Family ID F536734106 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family 1 Baron Edmund FERRERS, Of Chartley, b. 1386, Chartley Castle, Staffordshire, England
d. 17 Dec 1435, Castle Bromwich, Warwickshire, Englandmap
(Age 49 years) Marriage Nov 1412 England
[2, 4] Children 1. Joan FERRERS, b. 1410, Chartley, Staffordshire, England
d. 1483 (Age 73 years)2. Sir. William De FERRERS, Baron, b. Abt 1412, Chartley Castle, Staffordshire, England
d. 9 Jun 1450, Keyston, Thrapston, Huntingdonshire, England (Dspm)
(Age ~ 38 years)3. Margaret DE FERRERS, b. Mar 1413, Chartley Castle, Staffordshire, England
d. 29 Jan 1487, Greyfriars Priory, Dunwich, Suffolk, England
(Age ~ 73 years)4. Richard de FERRERS, b. 1418, Chartley Holme, Staffordshire, England
d. Yes, date unknown5. Johanna FERRERS, b. Abt 1422, Chartley, Staffordshire, England
d. Yes, date unknown6. Robert FERRERS, b. 1427, Chartley, Staffordshire, England
d. Yes, date unknown7. Edmund FERRERS, II, b. 1429, Stowe-by-Chartley, Staffordshire, England
d. 1450, Stowe-by-Chartley, Staffordshire, England
(Age 21 years)8. Martin DE FERRERS, b. Abt 1430, Europe
d. Europe 
9. Henry FERRERS, b. 1431, Chartley Castle, Staffordshire, England
d. 12 Apr 1486, England
(Age 55 years)10. Anne De FERRERS, b. 1432, Herefordshire, England
d. 9 Jan 1469, Leicestershire, England
(Age 37 years)11. Edward DE FERRERS, b. Abt 1435, Chartley, Staffordshire, England
d. Yes, date unknownFamily ID F6506 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 17 Dec 2024
Family 2 Sir Philip CHETWYND, Sheriff of Staffordshire, Governor of Bayonne, Lt. of Calais, b. Abt 1407, Ingestre, Staffordshire, England
d. 10 May 1444, Calais, Guernsey
(Age ~ 37 years) Marriage Bef 3 May 1438 England
[3] Children 1. William CHETWYND, b. Abt 1434, of Ingestre, Staff, Eng.
d. Yes, date unknownFamily ID F536734107 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 17 Dec 2024
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Notes - Ellen, daughter of Thomas Roche of Castle Bromwich, co. Worcs., d. 4 Nov 1440 (she m. (2) as 1st wife, Sir Philip Chetwynd). [Ancestral Roots]
Note: I believe that Castle Bromwich was in Warwickshire. The "county" is now called something like Birmingham, West Midlands, since the 1974 reorganization.
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He [Edmund Ferrers] married Ellen, 2nd daughter and coheir of Thomas Roche, of Castle Bromwich, co. Warwick, by Elizabeth, daughter and heir of Sir Thomas BIRMINGEHAM, and niece and heir of Sir John BIRMINGEHAM, of Birmingham, co. Warwick, Kingston Bagpuze, Berks, &c. They had livery of that portion of her inheritance which Elizabeth, Lady Clinton, formerly wife of the said Sir John Birmingeham, had held in dower or otherwise, 1 December 1423. He died 17 December 1435. His widow's dower was ordered to be assigned, 7 February 1435/6, the manor of Castle Bromwich, and the moieties of the manors of Whitacre and Birmingham, which he had held in her right as of her inheritance, having been liberated to her, 4 February 1435 /6. She had licence to marry whom she would, for a fine of £40, 28 August 1436. She married, 2ndly, as 1st wife, before 3 May 1438, Sir Philip CHETEWYND, of Ingestre, co. Stafford, and Grendon, co. Warwick. She died 4 November 1440. He died 10 May 1444. [Complete Peerage V:317-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
- Ellen, daughter of Thomas Roche of Castle Bromwich, co. Worcs., d. 4 Nov 1440 (she m. (2) as 1st wife, Sir Philip Chetwynd). [Ancestral Roots]
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Sources - [S579] Jim Weber.
- [S845] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 56b-35 (Reliability: 3).
- [S1160] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 17 Dec 2024), entry for Ellen De LA ROCHE, person ID G7RC-T7P. (Reliability: 3).
- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, V:317-9 (Reliability: 3).
- [S579] Jim Weber.
