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 Abt 1265 - Bef 1312 (~ 47 years)
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| Name |
John De WEYLAND [2] |
| Suffix |
Of Blaxhall, Sir |
| Born |
Abt 1265 |
Blaxhall, Plomesgate, Suffolk, England  |
| Gender |
Male |
| _UID |
40D6060F58B54414AEC95F278F3734CD54E6 |
| Died |
Bef 30 Oct 1312 |
Middleton, Blything, Suffolk, England [2] |
| Person ID |
I13253 |
Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy |
| Last Modified |
5 Feb 2012 |
| Family |
Mary De BRAOSE, Heiress Of Rouse Hall, b. Abt 1267, Stinton, Norfolk, England , d. Aft 12 Dec 1312, Blaxhall, Plomesgate, Suffolk, England (Age ~ 45 years) |
| Married |
Bef 1289 [2] |
| Children |
| | 1. Richard De WEYLAND, Of Clopton, Sir, b. Bef 30 Oct 1290, Blaxhall, Plomesgate, Suffolk, England , d. Bef 10 Apr 1319, Rouse Hall, Clopton, Woodbridge, Suffolk, England (Age ~ 28 years) |
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| Last Modified |
29 Aug 2016 |
| Family ID |
F6742 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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| Notes |
- The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 30 May 2003, by John Ravilious:
1.2a.2 John de Weyland
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Death: bef 30 Oct 1312
kt., of Blaxhall, Middleton, Swilland[1] and Ashbocking, Suffolk & c.
received from his father in 1287
'...all his Irish lands plus his Suffolk manor of Middleton, evidently in anticipation of his marriage to Mary, the daughter of Richard and Mary de Braose.'
the Irish lands referred to are identified in grant of 1303, cited by Rosie Bevan:
'32 Edw I John de Weyland - free warren in Wyttinesham, and Blakeshall, Clopton manor market and fair in Suffolk. Free warren in Balicover and Kylotheran [Killotheran], co. Waterford, Ireland'
[the charter for the market and fair at Clopton, Suffolk dated 19 Dec 1303, from CChR 1300-26, p. 43
had a grant of free warren in his manor of Blaxhall, 1304
re: Blaxhall and other holdings of Sir Thomas de Weyland, Copinger wrote:
' On Thomas de Weyland abjuring the realm for felony in 1289, the manor was taken into the King's hands [IPM, 18 Edw. I. 51], and a dispute arose as to whether it had escheated or not. Roger Bigot, Earl of Norfolk, claimed it as held of him, and it is said he obtained a verdict by means of a packed jury [R.P. i. 46]. John de Weyland, Thomas's son, however, in proceedings in 1290 recovered the manor from the King and the Earl.
'The proceedings, which are interesting, will be found in the Abbreviation of Pleas in 1290 [18 Edw. I., Trin. 62 (plea), 18 and 19 Edw. I. Mich. 54 (judgment)].' Copinger, V:110
[See also Farrer, Honors and Knights' Fees, II:231 which states,
'...Thomas de Weyland, who abjured the realm for a felony, made an agreement with Sir James son of Gilbert, whereby the said Sir Thomas granted by fine to the said Sir James and his son James the manors of Hedenham and Kelling, saving the advowson of Hedenham for the term of his life, and Sir James granted to the said Sir Thomas and John his son in tail the manor of Blaxall, Suff., to be held of the said Sir James and his heirs, which properties they had previously exchanged by mutual consent.' Farrer cites Cal. of Misc. Inq. i. 421]
The manor of Rouse Hall, Suffok was probably the maritagium of his wife:
'...we meet with a fine levied of the manor in 1288 by John de Weyland and Maria his wife against Richard de Brewse and Alice his wife, and there can be no doubt that by virtue of this the manor became vested in John de Weyland ' [Feet of Fines, 16 Edw. I. 7, as cited by Copinger, Vol. I-Rouse Hall, p. 32]
had a grant of free warren [at Rouse Hall] in 1301, and the grant of a market and fair in the manor in 1304
d. 30 Oct 1312,
'...holding a moiety of Blaxhale Manor and advowson as 1 Fee, Manors of Assch 1/2 Fee, Wantisden, Middilton 1/4 Fee, Clopton, Swynland, Wythisham, Cokefeld, and Brompton in Withernisham 3/4 Fee, Onhous, and Whelwitham, with mess. at Pethage, and leaving s. h. Richard, 22 (Inq.).'
' He held also Kylothran Manor, Cloncridan township, and other lands in Co. Waterford (Inq. 6 Ap. 1313).' Knights V:186, citing IPMs of Sir John de Weyland in Suffolk and Co. Waterford
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in re: proof of Sir Richard de Weyland being son of John de Weyland:
(1) Wantisden, Suffolk was a holding of John de Weyland in 1306: reference in a quitclaim dated 26 May 1306:
'1. Alexander Albard of Wantesdene [Wantisden], jun.
2. Godfrey de Ludham and wife Cecily
(1) quitclaims to (2), piece of land in Tunstalle [Tunstall], lying between land of Sir John Weyland and land of Geoffrey Mingy, and piece of turbary in Wantesdene and [?But]tele [Butley], lying between (1)'s turbary and turbary of Richard the smith; to hold of chief lords of fee by accustomed services. Warranty clause. Witnesses: Seyer Syward, Thomas de Nauntone, Roger Sarle, Walter Large, Robert Seyer, John Gentelman and others.
Given at Wantesdene, Wednesday after Pentecost, 34 Edw.I.' - PRO, Suffolk Record Office, Ipswich Branch: The Iveagh (Phillipps) Suffolk Manuscripts [HD 1538/348 - HD 1538/441], WANTISDEN [ HD 1538/406/6 ]
(2) 1313, fine levied by Sir Richard de Weyland and his wife Joan in re: Wantisden and other manors (see under Richard)
Spouse: Mary de Braose
Death: aft 12 Dec 1312
Father: Sir Richard de Braose (-<1292), of Stinton, Norfolk & c.
Mother: Alice le Rus (ca1245-<1300)
Marr: bef 1289
Children: Sir Richard (<1290-<1319)
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- [S579] Jim Weber.
- [S44] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, John Ravilious (Therav3), 30 May 2003 (Reliability: 3).
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