John 2Nd Baron D' ARUNDEL, Sir Knight^{[1, 2]}

1364 - 1390  (25 years)

• Name	John 2Nd Baron D' ARUNDEL  [3, 4, 5]
  Suffix	Sir Knight
  Born	30 Nov 1364	Lytchett Matravers, Poole, Dorsetshire, England   [5, 6]
  Gender	Male
  Name	John FITZALAN
  _UID	ABC420FC86FA478A9DC3B5E8B0E363F1C081
  Died	14 Aug 1390	Ditton Manor, Stoke Pogis, Buckinghamshire, England   [5, 6]
  Buried	Missenden Abbey, Buckinghamshire, England
  Person ID	I13292	Carney Wehofer Feb 2024 Genealogy
  Last Modified	5 Jan 2006

  
  

  Married	Y  [7]
  Alt. Marriage	17 Feb 1358-1359  [8, 9, 10]
  	Alt. Marriage
  	1st husband
  Family ID	F13533	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Elizabeth Le DESPENSER,   b. Abt 1367, Essendine, Rutlandshire, England ,   d. Between 10 and 11 Apr 1408, Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England
  Married	Bef 1385	1st Husband   [11]
  Alt. Marriage	Bef 1387  [5, 12]
  	Alt. Marriage
  	1st husband
  Children	1. John FITZALAN, 13th Earl Of Arundel, Kb, Sir,   b. 1 Aug 1385, Ditton Manor, Stoke Pogis, Buckinghamshire, England ,   d. 21 Apr 1421, Arundel Caslte, West Sussex, England  (Age 35 years)   2. Thomas FITZALAN, Sir Knight,   b. Bef 1390, Arundel, Sussex, England ,   d. 1431, Beechwood, Sussex, England  (Age ~ 41 years)
  Last Modified	29 Aug 2016
  Family ID	F6689	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Notes

  John; never called to Parliament (perhaps because his mother was still living; if so it would strengthen the supposition that his father was called to Parliament as a peer in right of his wife; (see below against 17th/10th Earl where the Barony of Arundel and Mautravers are amalgamated); born 30 Nov 1364; served against Scots by land 1383 and at sea (against the French?) 1388; married by 1387 Elizabeth, daughter of 1st Lord (Baron) le Despenser, and died 14 Aug 1390. [Burke's Peerage] ----------------------- Sir John d'Arundel (121-8), Lord Arundel. [Magna Charta Sureties, Line 14-9] ----------------------- BARONY of ARUNDEL (II) 1379 JOHN D'ARUNDEL, son and heir, born 30 November 1364. He was never summoned to Parliament He was with the army in Scotland in 1383, and with the English Fleet in 1388. He married, before 1385, Elizabeth, daughter of Edward (DESPENSER), LORD Le DESPENSER, by Elizabeth, daughter and heir of Bartholomew (BURGHERSH), LORD BURGHERSH. He died 14 August 1390, and was buried in Missenden Abbey. On 15 July 1406 he is referred to as John Darundell Chivaler, and his son as John Darundell Esquire. His widow married William (LA ZOUCHE), LORD ZOUCHE OF HARYNGWORTH, who died 13 May 1396. She died 10 or 11 April 1408. Will, desiring to be buried in Tewkesbury Abbey, dated 4 Apri 1408. [Complete Peerage I:260, XIV:40, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] Note: CP assumes that the reason he was not called was because this Barony, even though it was not named so, was really the Mautravers/Maltravers Barony in right of his mother Eleanor; and John died before she did and therefore was not summoned to Parliament. However since the title was Arundel, and not Mautravers, he can legally be assumed to be the 2nd of that title.

  
  

• Sources

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