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Robert De OGLE, Sir Knight

Robert De OGLE, Sir Knight[1]

Male 1383 - 1436  (~ 57 years)

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  • Name Robert De OGLE  [2, 3, 4
    Suffix Sir Knight 
    Alt. Birth Between 1369 and 1373  [2, 3
    Alt. Birth 
    • Ogle, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England
    Born Between 1379 and 1383  Ogle, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Gender Male 
    _UID C15C0A41BC2B46F98AE28B84AECBB2023646 
    Died 12 Aug 1436  [2, 3, 5
    Person ID I13433  Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy
    Last Modified 5 Jan 2006 

    Married Y  [6
    Family ID F13050  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Maud GREY,   b. Abt 1386, Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 22 Aug 1451  (Age ~ 65 years) 
    Married Bef 21 May 1399  [2, 3, 7
    Children 
     1. Elizabeth (Anne) De OGLE,   b. Abt 1404, Kirkley, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     2. Margery (Margaret) De OGLE,   b. Abt 1406, Kirkley, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified 29 Aug 2016 
    Family ID F6863  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Sir Robert Ogle, Knight, b. 1369/73, d. 12 Aug 1436, warden of Roxborough Castle. [Ancestral Roots]

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      SIR ROBERT DE OGLE, knight, son and heir, was said variously to be aged 26 and 30 in 1409. In 1400, on some unknown occasion, he had been made prisoner by the Scots. In February 1402/3 he was appointed by the Bishop of Durham constable of Norham Castle, and justice, seneschal, sheriff and escheator in Norhamshire and Islandshire for 7 years; and in September for life. He had the King's writ for livery of his inheritance, 3, and livery 12 May 1410, being then a knight (d1). In May 1410 he was one of the commissioners to treat of a truce with Scotland, and in July commissioner of array in Northumberland. Sheriff of Northumberland, 1417-18, and Knight of the Shire, 1419-21, 1425 and 1435- In 1419 he recaptured Wark from William de Haliburton. In 1422 and succeeding years he was a commissioner of the peace. He was lieutenant of the Duke of Bedford as captain of Berwick Castle in 1423; and in the following year one of the escort appointed to conduct the King of Scots from Durham to Scotland. From 1425 to 1435 he was warden of Roxburgh Castle; in 1426 was one of the commissioners in Northumberland to arrange a short-term loan to the King; and in 1435 sheriff of Hexhamshire. He married, on or before 21 May 1399, Maud, daughter of Thomas GREY, lord of Wark. He died 12 or 13 August 1436 (d2). His widow was living 22 August 1451 (e). [Complete Peerage X:28-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

      (d1) He had, upon his father's death, violently contested the possession of Bothal with his younger brother John. The Commons presented a petition on behalf of John in the Parliament that met in Jan 1490/10, setting forth that at midnight on the day after their father's death Robert came to Bothal with 200 men-at-arms, some of whom were hired men, and some "even Scots" and enemies of the King, and besieged the castle with "escales, pavises, hurdises et autres orinances de guerre," till after 4 days' siege John was obliged to surrender. Robert remained in possession, and the Commons prayed that the matter should be referred to the Council--"considerantz qe les ditz Chastell & Manoir sont sy pres le Est-Marche d'Escoce, qe sufficeant remedie au dit suppliant par cours de la Commune Ley illoeqes ne poet estre fait." Robert was summoned to answer before the Council, and must have made his peace before the issue of his writ of livery.

      (d2) He had issue: younger sons John and William, and a daughter Margery, m. to Robert, son and heir of Rober Harbottle, Esq.

      (e) When her son Robert granted a reversion after her death to his brother William. She was probably still alive in 1453/4, when Maud Ogle, widow, paid tithes of Newbigging, in Norham.

      Note: Maybe somebody can't do simple arithmetic, but I get 1379-83 when I compute Robert's birth year from the information in CP. AR and MCS (who say 1369-73) also refer to a publication by Clay on the Extinct Peerages of the Northern Counties of England, so maybe he overrode CP. I think I will stick with CP until I find different.

  • Sources 
    1. [S579] Jim Weber.

    2. [S25] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 8-11, 65-9 (Reliability: 3).

    3. [S845] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 223-35 (Reliability: 3).

    4. [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, X:28-29, VI:488 (Reliability: 3).

    5. [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, X:28-29 (Reliability: 3).

    6. [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, X:26-27 (Reliability: 3).

    7. [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, X:29 (Reliability: 3).