Joanna "Jonet" ISSAC b. 1337 Lorn, Dunbartonshire, Scotland d. 8 Nov 1399 Argyll, Scotland: Our Family History

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Name	Joanna "Jonet" ISSAC [1]
Nickname	Jonet
Birth	1337	Lorn, Dunbartonshire, Scotland [1, 2]
Gender	Female
Name	Janet [2]
Name	Joan [2]
Name	Jonet Isaac [2]
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_FSLINK	https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GD2D-1JV
_UID	967F3E0AAE454B48B202A248F7F38F464037
Death	8 Nov 1399	Argyll, Scotland [1, 2]
Burial	Aft 8 Nov 1399	Cambuskenneth Abbey, Stirling, Scotland [1, 2]
Person ID	I28998	Carney Wehofer July 2025
Last Modified	17 Dec 2024

Father	Thomas De ISSAC, b. Abt 1306, Scotland d. 1 Nov 1364, Somme, Picardie, France (Age ~ 58 years)
Mother	Matilda BRUCE, b. Abt 1304, Scotland d. 20 Jul 1353, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland (Age ~ 49 years)
Marriage	Abt 1342	Scotland [3]
Family ID	F12709	Group Sheet \| Family Chart

Family Eoin "John" MACDOUGALL, 5th Chief of Clan MacDougall, b. Abt 1335, Lorn, Argyll, Scotland d. 29 Apr 1388, Innermeath, Scotland (Age ~ 53 years)

Marriage 1362 Argyll, Scotland [2]

Children

	1. John MACDOUGALL, b. 1358, Argyll, Scotland d. 1388 (Age 30 years)
	2. Isobel MACDOUGALL, de Ergadia, b. Abt 1363, Gylen Castle, Island of Kerrera, Lorn, Scotland d. 21 Dec 1439, Argyll, Scotland (Age ~ 76 years)

Family ID F12708 Group Sheet | Family Chart

Last Modified 17 Dec 2024

Notes

Biography

Joanna was the daughter of Thomas de Isaac and Matilda Bruce . Robert I, king of Scots, was her maternal grandfather, and David II, king of Scots, was her uncle.[1] [2][3]

Historians have speculated that David II may have personally arranged Joanna's marriage to John MacDougall, whom he most likely convinced to return to Scotland to reclaim the lands his family had once held in Argyll.[4] David was interested in having a strong ally in the north to keep the MacDonald clan in check, and one of his first actions on being released from captivity in England in 1358 was to confirm John MacDougall's possession of his family's lands in Lorn.[5]
Marriage to John, Lord of Lorn

Joana married (first) John MacDougall, Lord of Lorn, sometime before 1362.[6][7][8][2] There were two daughters from this marriage:

Janet; m. Robert Stewart of Rossyth[7][9]

Isabel; married John Stewart, Knt of Innermeath[10]

In 1369 King David II granted Joanna and her husband the lands of Glenlyon in Atholl, to hold until he was able to grant them lands elsewhere of a similiar value.[7] The following year, it was ordered that a quantity of foods abundant in the highlands (i.e. malts, barley, etc) be delivered every year for use in the kings various households, including the household of "the lordship of John of Lorn."[7]

John of Lorn was living during 1370, but died probably before September 1372.[7] The last time his name appeared on any official record was 12 October 1371 when Mariota, the widow of Ewen M'Yuar, mortgaged her lands to "John MacAlan, lord of Lorn" for forty pounds sterling.[11]
Marriage to Sir Malcolm Fleming

Joanna married (second), sometime after Sept 29, 1372 (the date of a charter) and by a papal dispensation dated 12 July 1377 Sir Malcolm Fleming, Knt of Biggar, Lanarkshire, and Cumbernault, and Sheriff of Dumbartonshire.[12][7] There were no children from this marriage.
Death

The exact date of Joanna's death is unknown, although she appears to have predeceased her second husband. She was buried at Cambuskenneth Abbey in Stirlingshire.[13]
Sources

? Paul, Sir James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: David Douglas (1904), vol. 1, p. 8
? 2.0 2.1 Paul, Sir James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: David Douglas (1908) vol. 5, p. 2
? Riddell. Comments on the Keir Performance with Drumpellier's Exposition (1860), p. 189, no. 3.
? Penman, Michael. The MacDonald Lordship and the Bruce Dynasty c.1306-1371, in Oram, Richard (ed). The Lordship of the Isles.,' p. 24. The Northern World: North Europe and the Baltic c.400-1700 AD. Peoples, Economics and Cultures (series vol. 68). Leiden: Brill.
? RRS, v, no. 165, cited in Penman, Michael. The MacDonald Lordship and the Bruce Dynasty c.1306-1371, in Oram, Richard (ed). The Lordship of the Isles.,' p. 25. The Northern World: North Europe and the Baltic c.400-1700 AD. Peoples, Economics and Cultures (series vol. 68). Leiden: Brill.
? Skene, Feliz J.H. (ed). John of Fordun's Chronicle of the Scottish Nation. Edinburgh: Edmonston and Douglas (1872), p. 360.
? 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5 Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, Salt Lake City: the author (2013), vol. 5, pp. 39 -40 STEWART. 10. Janet Isaac.
? Dunbar, Sir Archibald Hamilton. Scottish Kings; A Revised Chronology of Scottish History, 1005-1625. (Edinburgh: D. Douglas, (1899), pp. 141-142.
? Paul, Sir James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: David Douglas (1908) vol. 5, p. 1
? Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, Salt Lake City: the author (2013), vol. 5, pp. 40-41 STEWART. 11. Isabel of Lorn.
? MacPhail, J.R.N. (ed). The Highland Papers. Edinburgh: Scottish Historical Society (1914), vol. 2, pp. 147-148.
? Theiner, Augustin. Vetera Monumenta Hibernorum et Scotorum Historiam Illustrantia... Rome: Typis Vaticanis (1864), p. 362, copy of papal dispensation.
? Skene, Felix (ed). Johannis de Fordun Chronica Gentis Scotorum, (in Historians of Scotland, vol. 1 (1871), p. 369, note 17: "...Dicta vero Jahanna [de Lorn], mater earum, nupsit domino Malcolmo Flemyng, domino de Bygar quæ, suscepta proe ab eodem, obiit et sepulta est in ecclesia de Cambuskenet..." cited in Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, Salt Lake City: the author (2013), vol. 5, pp. 39 -40 STEWART. 10. Janet Isaac.

See also:

Cawley, Charles. "STEWART of LORN, (Robert Stewart)." Foundation for Medieval Genealogy: Medieval Lands, A Prosopography of Medieval European Noble and Royal Families. Accessed February 13, 2015.

Sellar, W.D.H. MacDougall, John, lord of Argyll. Oxford Dictionary of National Biography online edition (23 Sep 2004), available here by subscription.

Sellar, W.D. Hebridean Sea Kings: The Successors of Somerled, 1164-1316, in Cowan, E.J. (ed). Alba: Celtic Scotland in the Middle Ages. East Linton: Tuckwell Press (2000), pp. 341-357, 360 (kindle edition).

The Life Summary of Joanna
When Joanna Isaac was born in 1337, in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland, United Kingdom, her father, Sir Thomas Isaac Esq., was 31 and her mother, Matilda Maud de Bruce, was 34. She had at least 2 daughters with Eoin (John) MacDougall Ergadia 5th Chief of Clan MacDougall 5th Of Lorn And 7th Of Dunollie. She died in 1382, in Argyll and Bute, Scotland, United Kingdom, at the age of 45, and was buried in Cambuskenneth Abbey, Stirlingshire, Scotland.

Sources

[S1160] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 7 Sep 2024), entry for Isabell MacDougall, person ID GMR6-69W. (Reliability: 3).
[S1160] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 17 Dec 2024), entry for Joanna De ISSAC, person ID GD2D-1JV. (Reliability: 3).
[S1160] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 17 Dec 2024), entry for Matilda BRUCE, person ID L7X2-GGQ. (Reliability: 3).