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 1438 - 1519 (81 years)
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| Name |
John DRUMMOND [1] |
| Suffix |
First Lord of Drummond |
| Christened |
1438 |
Perth, Perthshire, Scotland  [1] |
| Born |
1 Jan 1438 |
Perthshire, Scotland [1] |
| Gender |
Male |
| FamilySearch ID |
LYNN-31N |
| TitleOfNobility |
Between 29 Jan 1487 and 1488 |
Scotland [2] |
| He was created 1st Lord Drummond |
| Occupation |
[2] |
| 1st Lord Drummond, Baron Drummond |
| Occupation |
Stirlingshire, Scotland [2] |
| Constable of Stirling Castle. |
| Occupation |
[2] |
| Member of Parliament |
| Occupation |
[2] |
| Sir |
| Occupation |
1488 [2] |
| He held the office of Justiciar [Scotland] |
| Occupation |
1488 [2] |
| He was appointed Privy Counsellor (P.C.) [Scotland] |
| Occupation |
1513 [2] |
| He was envoy to England. |
| Buried |
22 Sep 1519 |
Perthshire, Scotland [1] |
| Died |
18 Dec 1519 |
Drummond Castle, Perthshire, Scotland [1] |
| Person ID |
I594767776 |
Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy |
| Last Modified |
2 Jan 2023 |
| Father |
Sir Malcolm DRUMMOND, of Cargill and Stobhill, b. 1420, Cargill, Perthshire, Scotland , d. 1470, Scotland (Age 50 years) |
| Mother |
Lady Marion Mariot MURRAY, b. 1411, Ruthven Castle, Blackford, Perthshire, Scotland , d. 14 Jul 1445, Stobhall, Cargill, Perthshire, Scotland (Age 34 years) |
| Family ID |
F536729006 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Family |
Elizabeth LINDSAY, b. 1445, Crawford, Lanarkshire, Scotland , d. 22 Sep 1519, Crawford, Lanarkshire, Scotland (Age 74 years) |
| Married |
5 Mar 1458 |
Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland [2] |
| Children |
| | 1. Annabella DRUMMOND, b. 1463, Perth, Perthshire, Scotland, United Kingdom , d. 1492, Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland, United Kingdom (Age 29 years) |
| | 2. William DRUMMOND, Master of Drummond, b. Jan 1463, Cargill, Perthshire, Scotland , d. Jul 1503, Stirling Castle, Stirlingshire, Scotland (Age ~ 40 years) |
| | 3. Sir John DRUMMOND, 1st of Innerpeffray, b. Abt 1464, Innerpeffrey, Perthshire, Scotland , d. 1539 (Age ~ 75 years) |
| | 4. Baroness Euphemia Katharine DRUMMOND, b. 25 May 1467, Castle Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland , d. 1501, poisoned with her 2 sisters at Drummond Castle, Perthshire (Age 33 years) |
| | 5. Sybilla DRUMMOND, b. 1470, Perthshire, Scotland , d. 3 May 1502, Perthshire, Scotland (Age 32 years) |
| | 6. Lady Elizabeth DRUMMOND, b. 1472, Perth, Perthshire, Scotland , d. 21 Aug 1514, Perth, Perthshire, Scotland (Age 42 years) |
| | 7. Janet DRUMMOND, b. 1473, Coldoch, Perth, Scotland , d. 1512, Campsie, Stirlingshire, Scotland (Age 39 years) |
| | 8. Sir Malcolm DRUMMOND, of Cargill and Stobhall, b. 1473, Perth, Perthshire, Scotland , d. 20 Jan 1531, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland (Age 58 years) |
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| Last Modified |
2 Jan 2023 |
| Family ID |
F536729005 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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| Notes |
- 1st LORD JOHN DRUMMOND 1ST LORD DRUMMON was born about 1438 of Monzie, Perthshire, Scotland, to Sir Malcolm Drummond (1415-1470) and Lady Marion Mariot Murray (1411-1445.) He married Elizabeth Lindsay.
He was created 1st Lord Drummond, Scotland 29 January 1487/1488. He was appointed Privy Counsellor Scotland, 1488. He held the office of Justiciar, 1488. In 1495 he was envoy to England, 1511, 1512 also. He held the office of Constable of Stirling Castle.
In 1515 he was imprisoned in Blackness Castle and was temporarily deprived of peerage.
John Drummond died 22 September 1519, Drummond Castle, Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland, age 81.
John Drummond, 1st Lord Drummond
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
John Drummond, first Lord Drummond (died 1519), was a Scottish statesman.
Drummond, ninth successive knight of his family, was the eldest son of Sir Malcolm Drummond of Cargill and Stobhall, Perthshire, by his marriage with Mariota, eldest daughter of Sir David Murray of Tullibardine in the same county. He sat in parliament 6 May 1471, under the designation of Lord of Stobhall. On 20 March 1473? 4 he had a charter of the offices of seneschal and coroner of the earldom of Strathearn,in which he was confirmed in the succeeding reign.[1] In 1483 he was one of the ambassadors to treat with the English King, with a safe-conduct (passport) granted 29 November of that year; again, on 6 August 1484, to treat of the marriage of James, Prince of Scotland, and Anne de la Pole, niece of Richard III. He was a commissioner for settling border differences nominated by the treaty of Nottingham, 22 September 1484; his safe-conduct into England being dated on the ensuing 29 November.
James III of Scotland took the office of Steward of Strathearn from Drummond in September 1475, making him his enemy. Although Dummond was raised to the peerage by the title of Lord Drummond, 29 January 1488, soon after he joined the rebel party against James III, and he sat in the first parliament of James IV, 6 October 1488.
In this same year he was appointed a privy councillor and justiciary of Scotland, and was afterwards constable of the castle of Stirling. In 1489 John Stewart, 1st Earl of Lennox, rose in revolt against the king. He had encamped at Gartalunane, on the south bank of the Forth, in the parish of Aberfoyle, but during the darkness of the night of 11 Oct. was surprised and utterly routed by Drummond.[2] As one of the commissioners to redress border and other grievances, Drummond had a safe-conduct into England 22 May 1495, 26 July 1511, 24 Jan. 1513, and 20 April 1514.[3]
Assault on the Lyon Herald[edit]
In 1514 Drummond gave great offence to many of the lords by promoting the marriage of his grandson, Archibald Douglas, 6th Earl of Angus, with the queen-dowager Margaret. The Lord Lyon King of Arms (Sir William Cumming (or Comyn) of Inverallochy) was despatched to summon Angus before the council at Stirling Castle, when Drummond, thinking that he had approached the earl with more boldness than respect, struck him on the breast. In 1515 John Stewart, Duke of Albany, was chosen Regent of Scotland, but because Drummond did not favour the election he committed him (16 July) a close prisoner to Blackness Castle, upon an allegation that he had used violence towards the herald. He was tried capitally, found guilty, and his estates forfeited. However, he was not long in coming to terms with Albany. With other lords he signed the answer of refusal to Henry VIII, who had advised the removal of Albany, to which his seal is affixed, 4 July 1516, and in October he announced his final separation from the queen's party. He was in consequence released from prison and freed from his forfeiture, 22 November 1516.[4]
Family[edit]
He died at Drummond Castle, Strathearn, in 1519, and was buried in the church of Innerpeffray. He was succeeded by his great-grandson David. His wife was Elizabeth Lindsay, daughter of Alexander Lindsay, 4th Earl of Crawford, and by her he had three sons and six daughters. Malcolm, the eldest son, died young; David, master of Drummond, is not mentioned in the pedigrees, but is now believed to have been the chief actor in the Massacre of Monzievaird, when members of the Murrays of Ochtertyre were killed at Monzievaird Church, for which he was executed after 21 Oct. 1490.[5] William was living in March 1503; and John was ancestor of the Drummonds of Innerpeffray and of Riccarton.
Of the daughters, Margaret Drummond, mistress of James IV, was poisoned in 1501; Elizabeth married George Douglas, Master of Angus, and was great-grandmother of Henry, Lord Darnley, Beatrix never married; Annabella married William Graham, 1st Earl of Montrose; Eupheme, the wife of John Fleming, 4th Lord Fleming, was poisoned in 1501; and Sibylla shared a like fate, the sisters were buried at Dunblane Cathedral. Drummond was the common ancestor of the viscounts of Strathallan and of the earls of Perth and Melfort.
?DRUMMOND, JOHN, first Lord Drummond (d. 1519), statesman, ninth successive knight of his family, was the eldest son of Sir Malcolm Drummond of Cargill and Stobhall, Perthshire, by his marriage with Mariot, eldest daughter of Sir David Murray of Tullibardine in the same county. He sat in parliament 6 May 1471, under the designation of dominus de Stobhall. On 20 March 1473? 4 he had a charter of the offices of seneschal and coroner of the earldom of Strathearn (Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, ed. Paul, 1424? 1513, p. 236), in which he was confirmed in the succeeding reign (ib. p. 372). In 1483 he was one of the ambassadors to treat with the English, to whom a safe-conduct was granted 29 Nov. of that year; again, on 6 Aug. 1484, to treat of the marriage of James, prince of Scotland, and Anne de la Pole, niece of Richard III. He was a commissioner for settling border differences nominated by the treaty of Nottingham, 22 Sept. 1484; his safe-conduct into England being dated on the ensuing 29 Nov. He was raised to the peerage by the title of Lord Drummond, 29 Jan. 1487? 8. Soon after he joined the party against James III, and sat in the first parliament of James IV, 6 Oct. 1488. In this same year he was appointed a privy councillor and justiciary of Scotland, and was afterwards constable of the castle of Stirling. In 1489 the so-called Earl of Lennox rose in revolt against the king. He had encamped at Gartalunane, on the south bank of the Forth, in the parish of Aberfoyle, but during the darkness of the night of 11 Oct. was surprised and utterly routed by Drummond (Buchanan, Rer. Scotic. Hist. lib. xiii. c. v.). As one of the commissioners to redress border and other grievances, Drummond had a safe-conduct into England 22 May 1495, 26 July 1511, 24 Jan. 1512? 13, and 20 April 1514 (Hardy, Syllabus of Rymer's F?dera, ii. 729, 743, 745; Letters and Papers of Hen. VIII, ed. Brewer, i. 274, 316, 448, 478, 789). In 1514 Drummond gave great offence to many of the lords by promoting the marriage of his grandson, Archibald Douglas, sixth earl of Angus, with the queen-dowager Margaret. Lyon king-at-arms (Sir William Comyn) was despatched to summon Angus before the council, when Drummond, thinking that he had approached the earl with more boldness than respect, struck him on the breast. In 1515 John, duke of Albany, was chosen regent, but because Drummond did not favour the election he committed him (16 July) a close prisoner to Blackness Castle, upon an allegation that he had used violence towards the herald (Letters &c. of Henry VIII, vol. ii. pt. i. pp. 187, 205, 520). He was tried capitally, found guilty, and his estates forfeited. However, he was not long in coming to terms with Albany. With other lords he signed the answer of refusal to Henry VIII, who had advised the removal of Albany, to which his seal is affixed, 4 July 1516, and in October he announced his final separation from the queen's party (ib. pp. 643, 772). He was in consequence released from prison and freed from his forfeiture, 22 Nov. 1516. He died at Drummond Castle, Strathearn, in 1519, and was buried in the church of Innerpeffray. He was succeeded by his great-grandson David. In Douglas's 'Peerage of Scotland' (ed. Wood, ii. 361) Drummond is absurdly stated to have married 'Lady Elisabeth Lindsay, daughter of David, duke of Montrose.' His wife was Elizabeth Lindsay, daughter of Alexander, fourth earl of Crawford, and by her he had three sons and six daughters. Malcolm, the eldest son, died young; David, master of Drummond, is not mentioned in the pedigrees, but is now believed to have been the chief actor in the outrage on the Murrays at Monivaird Church, for which he was executed after 21 Oct. 1490 (Exchequer Rolls of Scotland, ed. Burnett, vol. x. p. 1, with which cf. Accounts of the Lord High Treasurer, Scotland, ed. Dickson, vol. i. pp. cii? civ); William was living in March 1502? 3; and John was ancestor of the Drummonds of Innerpeffray and of Riccarton. Of the daughters, Margaret [q. v.], mistress of James IV, was poisoned in 1501; Elizabeth married George, master of Angus, and was great-grandmother of Henry, lord Darnley; Beatrix married James, first earl of Arran; Annabella married William, first earl of Montrose; Eupheme, the wife of John, fourth lord Fleming, was poisoned in 1501; and Sibylla shared a like fate. Drummond was the common ancestor of the viscounts of Strathallan and of the earls of Perth and Melfort.
Drummond Castle Scotland
LADY ELIZABETH LINDSAY was born about 1445 of Castle Clydesdale, Lanarkshire Scotland, to Alexander Lindsay (1423-1453) and Lady Margaret Crawford (1420-1499.) She married John Drummond.
Elizabeth Lindsay died 22 September 1519, Crawford, Lanarkshire, Scotland, age 74.
Children of John Drummond and Elizabeth Lindsay:
1.Master William Drummond (1458-1503)
2.Malcolm Drummond (1461-)
3.Master David Drummond (1464-1490)
4.Catherine Drummond (1465-1530)
5.Lady Euphemia Drummond (1467-1502)
6.AnnabelLord Drummond
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- [S1160] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 2 Jan 2023), entry for Annabella Drummond, person ID L5VL-KF2. (Reliability: 3).
- [S1160] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 2 Jan 2023), entry for John DRUMMOND, person ID LYNN-31N. (Reliability: 3).
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