John STEWART, 2nd Lord of Lorne

1397 - 1463  (66 years)

• Name	John STEWART  [1]
  Suffix	2nd Lord of Lorne
  Born	1397	Glenorchy, Argyll, Scotland   [1]
  Gender	Male
  FamilySearch ID	LBGP-MQJ
  TitleOfNobility	[2]
  	Lord of Lorne
  Name	John Mourach STEWART  [2]
  Buried	1463	Dunkeld, Perthshire, Scotland   [1]
  Died	20 Dec 1463	Dunstaffnage Castle, Oban, Scotland   [1]
  Person ID	I594767834	Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy
  Last Modified	2 Jan 2023

  
  

  Father	Sir Robert STEWART, of Innermeath and Lorn, 1st Lord,   b. 1379, Innermeath, Perthshire, Scotland ,   d. 20 Dec 1449, Glenorchy, Argyll, Scotland  (Age 70 years)
  Mother	Lady Joan STEWART, Of Albany,   b. 1379, Falkland Castle, Fife, Scotland ,   d. 1439, Dundonald, Ayrshire, Scotland  (Age 60 years)
  Family ID	F536729018	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Agnes MACDONALD,   b. Abt 1400, Dingwall, Ross-Shire, Scotland ,   d. 1463, Glenorchy, Argyll, Scotland  (Age ~ 63 years)
  CommonLawMarriage	Abt 1427	Scotland   [2]
  Children	1. Isabel (Elizabeth) STEWART,   b. Jan 1437, Castle Glenorchy, Lorn, Argyll, Scotland ,   d. 26 Oct 1510, Dunbartonshire, Scotland  (Age ~ 73 years)   2. Janet STEWART,   b. 1439, Scotland ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Last Modified	2 Jan 2023
  Family ID	F536729017	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Notes

  The Life Summary of John When Sir John Stewart 2nd Lord of Lorne was born in 1397, in Glenorchy, Argyll, Scotland, United Kingdom, his father, Robert Stewart of Innermeath and Lorn, 1st Lord, was 18 and his mother, Lady Joan Stewart, was 18. He had at least 1 son and 2 daughters with Countess Agnes MacDonald. He died on 20 December 1463, in Rubha Garbh, Argyll and Bute, Scotland, United Kingdom, at the age of 66, and was buried in Dunkeld, Perthshire, Scotland. BARON JOHN STEWART, BARON OF LORNE, was born about 1405 of Fothergill, Argyll, Scotland, to Lord Robert Stewart (1479-1449) and Joan Stewart (1379-1445.) He married Agnes MacDonald, Common-law marriage 1427, Dingwall, Ross-shire, Scotland. John Stewart died 20 December 1463, Dunstaffnage Castle, Oban, Scotland, age 58. AGNES MACDONALD was born about 1402 of Dingwall, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland, to Lord Donald MacDonald (1365-1423) and Countess Mariota Leslie (1367-1440.) She was the common-law wife of Baron John Stewart, 1427, Dingwall,Ross-shire, Scotland. Agnes passed away about 1463, Dunstaffnage Scotland, age 53. Children of John Stewart and Agnes MacDonald: 1.*LADY ISABEL STEWART COUNTESS (1427-1510) 2.Lady Janet Stewart (1432-1475) 3.Dougald Stewart, Chief (1445-1498) He had two wives: daughter MacDougall and daughter MacLaren. All other wives linked to him do not have valid sources and will be disconnected. ------------------------------------------------------- The name of John's first wife is not known. With his first wife Janet, Isabel and Marion were born. With a mistress (daughter of MacLaren) Dugald of Appin. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Stewart, 2nd Lord Lorne was born between 1397 and 1434.3 He was the son of Sir Robert Stewart, 1st Lord Lorne and Joan Stewart. He gained the title of 2nd Lord Lorne [S., 1439] circa 1448.1 and also went by the nick-name of 'Muireach' (or in English, 'the Leper').4 John, Lord Lorne, called "the Leper," was surprised and mortally wounded by some of the Clan Dougall led by the 10th Chief's wild son, Black Alan MacDougall. (Alan M'Coule (3). He is said to have married on his death-bed (but this was not recognised by the authorities). John died of his wounds in his castle of Dunstaffnage on 20 Dec 1463. Between 1449 and 1455 he sat in the Scottish Parliament as Lord Lorn.3 Sources [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume VIII, page 138. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage. [S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Family: A Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 218. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Family. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume VIII, page 139. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 2, page 2766. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition. Links http://www.thepeerage.com/p10798.htm#i107974 Sources Scots Peerage page 332 John Stewart, 2nd Lord Lorne was born between 1397 and 1434.3 He was the son of Sir Robert Stewart, 1st Lord Lorne and Joan Stewart. He gained the title of 2nd Lord Lorne [S., 1439] circa 1448.1 and also went by the nick-name of 'Muireach' (or in English, 'the Leper').4 John, Lord Lorne, called "the Leper," was surprised and mortally wounded by some of the Clan Dougall led by the 10th Chief's wild son, Black Alan MacDougall. (Alan M'Coule (3). He is said to have married on his death-bed (but this was not recognised by the authorities). John died of his wounds in his castle of Dunstaffnage on 20 Dec 1463. Between 1449 and 1455 he sat in the Scottish Parliament as Lord Lorne.3 ---------------------------- http://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/getperson.php?personID=I929&tree=CC -------------------------- Stewart, John 2nd Lord of Lorne (Sir ) [929] 4 5 6 Born: 1400 1 Marriage (1): MacDougall, dau. [15692] circa 1429 in Argyll, Scotland 1 Marriage (2): MacLaren, dau. [3929] in 1463 2 3 Died: 20 December 1463, Dunstaffnage, Argyll, Scotland at age 63 1 7 Cause of his death was killed by a renegade MacDougall in the pay of the English. Another name for John was Stewart, John "Mourach" of Lorne. General Notes: 1 - On the murder of John, the second Stewart Lord of Lorne, in 1463 by a renegade MacDougall in the pay of the English, the Lordship and castle passed to his brother Sir Walter. There was a dispute, since the murdered man was on his way to be married to his mistress so as to legitimate his natural son. The last Stewart Lord of Lorne is said to have died on the threshold while reciting his marriage vows. Local sympathy seemingly favored the boy and for six years there was conflict in Lorne. Sir Walter, perhaps finding the lands more trouble than they were worth, exchanged the Lordship with Colin Earl of Argyll for richer and more peaceful lands in eastern Scotland. The exchange was ratified by royal charter in 1470. 2 - Tradition tell us that in 1445, while returning to his seat at Dunstaffnage castle from the great cattle tryst at Crieff, Sir John met and fell in love with the daughter of MacLaren of Ardvech. Although married, he began an affaire with his new love which one year later produced a son. He was christened Dugald and was to be the first Chief of the Stewarts of Appin. After the death of his first wife, Sir John waited, for reasons we are unaware of today, for 5 years until setting up the marriage between himself and Dugald's mother, but it may have had something to do with the politics of the day. In 1463, Sir John set a wedding date and sent for Dugald and his mother to come to Dunstaffnage. Unknown to Sir John, there was a plot to kill the Lord of Lorne. It is not fully known, but it is thought to have been set up by the Lord of the Isles who was in a power struggle with the King of Scots, and who saw it as being in his best interest to neutralize this powerful and loyal representative of the King in the west highlands. The other plotters, which some feel included Colin Campbell, Lord Argyll, Sir John's son-in-law, were primarily represented by Alan MacCoul, the illegitimate grandson of an earlier MacDougall Chief. As the lightly armed wedding party made it's way from Dunstaffnage to the small chapel located approximately 180 yards from the castle walls, they were attacked by a superior force lead by Alan MacCoul. Although better armed, MacCoul's force was defeated, but not before mortally wounding Lord of Lorn. Sir John was rushed into the chapel and MacCoul and his henchmen ran into and occupied the deserted Dunstaffnage. With his last breath Sir John married Dugald's mother, legitimizing him and making him the de jure Lord of Lorne. After receiving the last rites, Sir John expired and a new chapter in west highland history was opened. 8 John married dau. MacDougall [15692] [MRIN: 1529] circa 1429 in Argyllshire, Scotland.1 (dau. MacDougall [15692] was born circa 1412 in Argyll, Scotland.) John possibly married dau. MacLaren [3929] [MRIN: 2451], daughter of ?? MacLaren of Ardveich [22529], in 1463.2 3 Sources 1 International Genealogical Index - submitted, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, International Genealogical Index. 2 Stirnet Genealogy, Peter Barns-Graham, Stirnet Genealogy (www.stirnet.com), Stewart18. 3 www.electricscotland.com, http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/stoz/appin_stewarts.htm. 4 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/1150/ekf.html, http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/1150/ekf.html. 5 Colquoun_Cunningham.ged, Jamie Vans. 6 Stirnet Genealogy, Peter Barns-Graham, Stirnet Genealogy (www.stirnet.com), Campbell02: The Scots Peerage (Argyll), Burkes Peerage 1934 (Argyll). 7 Betty and Dick Field's Family History, Richard Field, Betty and Dick Field's Family History. 8 www.electricscotland.com, 2 - http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/stoz/appin_stewarts.htm. Source: http://clanmacfarlane.100megsfree5.com/929.htm Reference: MyHeritage Family Trees - SmartCopy: Apr 21 2017, 16:08:05 UTC view all John Stewart, 2nd Lord of Lorne's Timeline 1397 1397 Birth of John Lorne, Argyll, Scotland 1432 1432 Age 35 Birth of Janet Stewart Of Lorn & Innermeath Lorne, Argyll, Scotland 1437 January 1437 Age 40 Birth of Isabel Stewart of Lorn, Countess of Argyll Lorne, West Dunbartonshire, Scotland 1446 1446 Age 49 Birth of Dugald Maclaurin Stewart, 1st of Ap

  
  

• Sources

  [S1160] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 2 Jan 2023), entry for Isabel (Elizabeth) STEWART, person ID GH11-WP8. (Reliability: 3). [S1160] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 2 Jan 2023), entry for John Stewart, person ID LBGP-MQJ. (Reliability: 3).