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John KEITH

John KEITH

Male 1294 - 1324  (30 years)

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  • Name John KEITH  [1
    Born 1294  Buchan, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    FamilySearch ID GD8V-WYQ 
    Name John Keith  [2
    Died 1324  Innerpeffray, Perthshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Person ID I594772176  Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy
    Last Modified 16 Apr 2024 

    Father Robert KEITH,   b. Abt 1270, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 11 Aug 1332, Dupplin, Perthshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 62 years) 
    Mother Barbara DOUGLAS,   b. 1280, Douglas Castle, Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1350, Castle Cary, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 70 years) 
    Family ID F536731211  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Isabella DE SOULIS,   b. 1276, Hermitage Castle, Dougas, South Lanakshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Feb 1317, Castle Cary, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 41 years) 
    Children 
     1. Christina KEITH,   b. 1319, Auchterhouse, Angushire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1380, Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 61 years)
     2. Robert KEITH,   b. Abt 1316, Humbie, Haddingtonshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 17 Oct 1346, Neville's Cross, Durham, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 30 years)
     3. Edmund DE KEITH,   b. Abt 1318, Buchan, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 17 Oct 1346, Battle of Neville's Cross, Durham, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 28 years)
     4. Margaret KEITH,   b. 1320, Crieff, Perthshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1410, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 90 years)
    Last Modified 16 Apr 2024 
    Family ID F536730034  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • John Keith was the son and heir of Sir Robert Keith and Barbara Douglas.[1][2][3] John's date of birth has been estimated as occurring circa 1294, based upon an entry in The Scots Peerage (Vol. VI), where John's son, Robert, is mentioned:

      As having been present at the taking of Perth in 1332. He must have been then quite a youth, for he seems to have been under age in 1335-36, when Ralph de Neville possessed his half of the Soulis lands in Liddesdale in ward. He seems to have been dead some years prior to 1345-46.[1]
      If grandson Robert fought at Perth in 1332, he would have been at least 16, for any younger, he would not have been eligible for military service.[4][5] Thus, having still been a minor in 1335-36, he was likely about age 19.[1] This would place John's son, Robert, as having been born circa 1316. Assuming an early parentage of 22 for his father, John may have been born circa 1294.

      John Keith had one known brother, Sir William, noted for opposing the peace in August of 1335 between Scotland and England.[1]

      Marriage
      John married an unknown sister and co-heir of William de Soules and had the following issue: Robert, who succeeded his grandfather Robert Keith as Marischal of Scotland, married Margaret, daughter of Sir Gilbert Hay of Errol, first Constable of Scotland, but died without issue;[2] an unknown daughter who married Sir Robert Maitland; and Edmund and Sir Edward, both of whom were killed at the battle of Durham on 17 October 1346.[1][6] It is unknown whether John had any previous marriages.

      Death
      John died in 1324, pre-deceasing his father, which appears by an entail made by John's father, Robert Keith, in 1325, whereby John's estate was passed on to his son, Robert and his heirs male.[1] The location of his death and burial are unknown.

      Research Notes
      Few sources were located that provided biographical data for John Keith. The following sources were reviewed with no additional information found regarding notable events in the life of John:

      Bain, Joseph, (1881). Calendar of documents relating to Scotland preserved in Her Majesty's Public Record Office, London (Vol. II). Edinburgh: H. M. General Register House.
      Bain, Joseph. (Ed.). (1881). Calendar Of Documents Relating To Scotland, Preserved In Her Majesty's Public Record Office, London (Vol. V). Edinburgh: H.M. General register House.
      Barrow, G. W. S. (2013). Robert Bruce and the Community of the Realm of Scotland. Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press.
      Beam, Amanda G. (2005). The Political Ambitions and Influences of the Balliol Dynasty, c. 1210-1364 (pp. 176, 202, 419). (Doctoral dissertation). Retrieved from University of Stirling.
      Cokayne, George Edward. (1932). The Complete Peerage; or, A History of the House of Lords and all its Members from the Earliest Times (Vol. VIII). London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd.
      Dalrymple, David. (1797). Annals of Scotland: From the Accession of Malcolm III in the Year MLVII to the Accession of the House of Stewart in the Year MCCCLXXI, to Which are Added, Tracts Relative to the History and Antiquities of Scotland (Third ed., Vol. II). Edinburgh: Archibald Constable & Co.
      Nisbet, Alexander. (1816). A System of Heraldry, Speculative and Practical, with the True Art of Blazon, According to the Most Approved Heralds in Europe: Illustrated with Suitable Examples of Armoria Figures, and Achievements of the Most Considerable Surnames and Families in Scotland, Together with Historical and Genealogical Memorials Relative Thereto (Vol. II). Edinburgh: W. Blackwood.
      Ramsay, James Henry. (1913). Genesis of Lancaster; or, The Three Reigns of Edward II, Edward III, and Richard II, 1307-1399 (Vol. 1). Oxford: The Clarendon Press.
      Records of the Parliaments of Scotland to 1707.
      Robertson, William. (1798). An Index, Drawn up About the Year 1629, of Many Records of Charters, Granted by the Different Sovereigns of Scotland Between the Years 1309 and 1413... Edinburgh: Murray & Cochrane.
      Stephen, Leslie (Ed.). (1890). Dictionary of National Biography (Vol. XXI).
      Stones, Edward. (1970). Anglo-Scottish Relations, 1174-1328. Oxford: Clarendon Press.
      Thomson, John Maitland (Ed.). (1912). Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum A.D. 1306-1424. Edinburgh: H.M. General Register House.
      Sources
      Balfour Paul, James. (1909). The Scots Peerage: Founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom (Vol. VI, p. 33). Edinburgh: D. Douglas. Retrieved from Internet Archive (Available online); accessed 17 July 2021.
      ? 2.0 2.1 Douglas, Robert. (1764). The Peerage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, from their Origin to the Present Generation. Collected from the Public Records and Chartularies of this Country, the Records and other Writings of the Nobility and the Works of our Best Historians (p. 451). Edinburgh: R. Fleming. Retrieved from Internet Archive (Available online); accessed 17 July 2021.
      ? People of Medieval Scotland 1093-1371. Robert Keith, Marischal (no. 16138). Retrieved from PoMS (Available online); accessed 3 July 2021.
      ? MacDonald, Alastair J. (October 2013). Courage, Fear and the Experience of the Later Medieval Scottish Soldier (p. 182). The Scottish Historical Review, 92(235), 179-206. doi: 10.3366/shr.2013.0174. Retrieved from euppublishing.com (Available online); accessed 26 June 2021.
      ? Alvarez, Sandra. (9 March 2014). Teenagers at War During the Middle Ages. Retrieved from De Re Militari (Available online); accessed 27 June 2021.
      ? Cawley, C. (11 May 2021). Scotland Untitled Nobility (Robert Keith, i). Retrieved from Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (Available online); accessed 17 July 2021.



  • Sources 
    1. [S1160] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 8 Apr 2024), entry for Christina Keith, person ID G9GQ-24B. (Reliability: 3).

    2. [S1160] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 16 Apr 2024), entry for John Keith, person ID GD8V-WYQ. (Reliability: 3).