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Joan TALBOT[1, 2]
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Name Joan TALBOT [3, 4, 5, 6, 7] Birth Bef 1423 Waterford, Waterford, Munster, Ireland
[3, 5, 8] Gender Female _FSFTID GX95-SKX _FSLINK https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GX95-SKX _UID C07D18165988431B892F699C8C5FF04183D7 Death , Grafton, Worcester, England
[3, 5] - (SPS) Sine Prole Supersite (Died without surviving issue)
Person ID I8061 Carney Wehofer July 2025 Last Modified 12 Dec 2022
Father Sir John TALBOT, Knight, b. 1385, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
d. 17 Jul 1453, Battle Of Castillon, Bordeaux, France (Killed)
(Age 68 years) Mother Maude De NEVILLE, 6th Baroness Furnival, b. 21 Dec 1392, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
d. 31 May 1423, Priory, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
(Age 30 years) Marriage Bef 8 Mar 1406-1407 England
[3, 5, 9] Alt. Marriage Bef 12 Mar 1406-1407 [10, 11, 12, 13] Alt. Marriage - 1st wife
Family ID F3852 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family James "The Just" 1St Baron De BERKELEY, Sir, b. Abt 1394, Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales
d. Nov 1463, Berkeley Castle, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England
(Age ~ 69 years) Marriage 25 Jul 1457 <, Axholme, Lincoln, England>
[3, 5, 8, 14, 15, 16] _STAT Settlement Family ID F4054 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 29 Aug 2016
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Notes - Joan, daughter of John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, by Maud, daughter of Thomas Nevill, Lord Furnivale. Joan married (2) May 1474 Edmund Hungerford. [Magna Charta Sureties]
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He [James de Berkeley] married, 4thly, (Settlment 25 July 1457) Joan, daughter of John (TALBOT), 1st EARL OF SHREWSBURY, by his 1st wife, Maud, elder daughter and heir of Thomas (NEVILL), LORD FURNIVAL, which Joan was consequently stepdaughter of Margaret, Countess of Shrewsbury abovenamed. He died at Berkeley Castle, Nov 1463, within 36 days of having (22 Oct.) executed a deed of reconciliation with the said Countess and was buried at Berkeley. His widow married, before 26 May 1474, Edmund Hungerford. [Complete Peerage II:132-3, XIV:87, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
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Joan; married c 25 July 1457, as his 3rd or 4th wife, 1st Lord (Baron) Berkeley; married 2nd 1487 Edmund Hungerford. [Burke's Peerage]
Note: Burke's Peerage indicates that Joan is daughter of John Talbot by Margaret Beauchamp, his 2nd wife. This differs from MCS & CP, which have her mother Maud Neville, his 1st wife and names Margaret Beauchamp as her step-mother. Her birth date is close to Maud's death and Margaret's marriage date. Could be either one.
Note: I have no idea (and neither does anyone else I have seen) who Edmund Hungerford is, that Joan supposedly married in 1474 or 1487.
- Joan, daughter of John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, by Maud, daughter of Thomas Nevill, Lord Furnivale. Joan married (2) May 1474 Edmund Hungerford. [Magna Charta Sureties]
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Sources - [S714] Kirk Larson, Hohelohe, Bethune Research, (Sept 23 2003).
- [S579] Jim Weber.
- [S112] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File™ v4.19 (FamilySearch®), ((Created by FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service, 50 East North Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150, April 1, 1999)).
- [S25] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 28B-10 (Reliability: 3).
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- [S714] Kirk Larson, Hohelohe, Bethune Research, (Sept 23 2003).
