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Ziemomsyl I PIAST, King of Poland

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  1. 1.  Ziemomsyl I PIAST, King of PolandZiemomsyl I PIAST, King of Poland was born about 892 in Poznan, Wielkopolskie, Poland; died on 25 May 964 in Poznan, Wielkopolskie, Poland.

    Other Events:

    • Clan: ; House of Piast
    • FamilySearch ID: LHY9-RBR
    • TitleOfNobility: ; 3rd Duke of the Polans
    • Religion: ; Slavic paganism

    Notes:

    Siemomysl or Ziemomysl (died c. 950? 960) was the third duke of Polans of the Piast dynasty, and the father of Poland's first Christian ruler, Mieszko I. He was listed by Gallus Anonymous in his Gesta principum Polonorum and was the son of Lestek, the second known Duke of the Polans. According to Gallus' account and historical research, Siemomysl has been credited with leaving the lands of the Polans, Goplans and Masovians to his son Mieszko I, who further expanded them during his reign.

    According to modern Polish historian Henryk Lowmianski, Siemomysl aided the Ukrani uprising against the Germans in 954 AD.

    He supposedly reigned from around 930 (although some historians believe that he reigned from around 950). Siemomysl united the lands of Polanie, Goplanie, and Mazowszanie (however, some historians think that perhaps his father did it first). His burial place is unknown.

    Siemomysl's wife (or wives) is unknown. There is a theory that the daughter of Wlodzislaw, prince of the Ledzianie tribe, could have been Siemomysl's wife, but there is no historical evidence to support this. Formerly it was thought that his wife was named Gorka, but Oswald Balzer refuted this view in 1895. Mieszko I and Czcibor were his sons.


    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Herbastus DE CREPON, King Of Denmark  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 911 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died on 20 Nov 996 in Dourdan, Essonne, Ile-de-France, France.
    2. 3. Adelajda, The White - Princess of Poland  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 940 in Poznan, Poznan, Poland; died in 997 in Hungary.

    Family/Spouse: Wlodzislawa VON LEDZIANIE. Wlodzislawa and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Ziemomsyl married Gorka VON POLEN, Duchess of Poland in 911 in Poznan, Poznan, Poland. Gorka was born in 896 in Poznan, Wielkopolskie, Poland; died in 962 in Poznan, Wielkopolskie, Poland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. Chosciszko, Prince of POLAND  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 925 in Of, Poznan, Poznan, Poland; died between 6 Jan 963 and 5 Jan 964; was buried between 6 Jan 963 and 5 Jan 964 in Poznan Poland.
    2. 5. Czcibor ZIEMOMYSLICH  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 928 in Of, Poznan, Poznan, Poland; died after 24 Jun 972 in Poland.
    3. 6. Mieszko I PIAST, Duke of Poland  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 930 in Poznan, Wielkopolskie, Poland; was christened between 6 Jan 966 and 5 Jan 967 in Gniezno - His Capital In Poland; died on 25 May 992 in Poznan, Wielkopolskie, Poland; was buried in Archcathedral Basilica of St Peter & St Paul, Poznan, Wielkopolskie, Poland.
    4. 7. Prokuj PRINCE OF POLAND  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 933 in Of Poznan, Miasto Poznan, Poznan, Poland; died in 994.
    5. 8. Princess Adelajda Aleta PIAST OF POLAND  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 953 in Poznan, Wielkopolskie, Poland; died in 997 in Sz?kesfeh?rv?r, Fej?r, Hungary; was buried in Hungary.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Herbastus DE CREPON, King Of DenmarkHerbastus DE CREPON, King Of Denmark Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 911 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died on 20 Nov 996 in Dourdan, Essonne, Ile-de-France, France.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: G8ST-XJY
    • Name: Herbastus "Not" De CREPON
    • Name: Herbastus De CREPON
    • Name: Herbastus De CREPON
    • _UID: 8E5995C67F774B15BD5E9C1C8A476BC86F50

    Notes:

    BIOGRAPHY: Royality for Commoners specifies that he is the same as King of Denmark, Haraldblaafand. BIOGRAPHY: History of Normandy; Under Roman domination the region formed part of Gallia Lugdunensis (Celtic Gaul). With the Frankish invasions it was made a constitiuent part of the Kingdom of Neustria. It came to be known as Normandy about 911, when Charles III King of France, turned it over to Rollo, the leader of a menacing band of Viking raiders. In 1066 a descendant of Rollo, William II, duke of Normandy, led an invasion of England and established himself there as William I, King of England. Normandy remained an English possession until conquered in 1204 by Philip II Augustus, King of France. During the Hundred years' War, the region was held at various times by both Frenct and English forces; it was finally recovered by the French in 1450. The Channel Islands, which were once a part of Normandy, remained in the possession of England. Normandy was the location of the Allied invasion of German-occupied france during World War II.

    Apparently there is no evidence of what the name was of the father of Gunnor, Senfrie, Herfast, and Avelina. Ancestral Roots states he was a forester of Arque. He was not of Crepon, but later genealogists mistakenly thought the family was of Crepon because Herbastus' son, Herfast, received lands in Crepon, probably due to the relationship of his sister with Duke Richard.

    I will leave the "de Crepon" name with the family, just as I have the Plantagenet name with that family, although the Plantagenets were not known by that name until Richard, Duke of York in the 1400's. However I will put a "not' in front of everybody but the son, who was "de Crepon".

    Relationship (J,M&L):
    33rd Great-grandparent

    Occupation:
    Forester of Arque

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 9. Duvelina  Descendancy chart to this point and died.
    2. 10. Senfria (Seinfreda)  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 936; and died.

    Herbastus married Cynthia Of OBATRIDES before 936. Cynthia was born about 914 in Normandy, France; died before 959. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 11. Herfast (Herbastus Arfast) De CREPON  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 944 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; and died.
    2. 12. Miss Of CREPON  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 946; and died.

    Herbastus married Gunnhild OLAFSDOTTIR about 959. Gunnhild was born in 923 in Uppsala, Sweden; died in 1000 in Longueville, Aqaluitaine, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 13. Gunnora (Gonnor) DE CREPON  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 936 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died about 1031 in France.
    2. 14. Woerta (Wevia) DE CREPON  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 942 in Port-Audemer, Normandy, France; and died.
    3. 15. Senfrie (Senfria\Seinfreda) Of CREPON  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 950 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; and died.
    4. 16. Duvelina (Eva\Dulceline) Of CREPON  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 953 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; and died.
    5. 17. Herfast (Arfastus) De CREPON  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 955 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died in Deceased in Crepon, Calvados, Normandy, France.

  2. 3.  Adelajda, The White - Princess of PolandAdelajda, The White - Princess of Poland Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 940 in Poznan, Poznan, Poland; died in 997 in Hungary.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: GDC3-H1W


  3. 4.  Chosciszko, Prince of POLANDChosciszko, Prince of POLAND Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 925 in Of, Poznan, Poznan, Poland; died between 6 Jan 963 and 5 Jan 964; was buried between 6 Jan 963 and 5 Jan 964 in Poznan Poland.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LCF3-CJW


  4. 5.  Czcibor ZIEMOMYSLICHCzcibor ZIEMOMYSLICH Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 928 in Of, Poznan, Poznan, Poland; died after 24 Jun 972 in Poland.

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    • FamilySearch ID: MMRT-VMH


  5. 6.  Mieszko I PIAST, Duke of PolandMieszko I PIAST, Duke of Poland Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 930 in Poznan, Wielkopolskie, Poland; was christened between 6 Jan 966 and 5 Jan 967 in Gniezno - His Capital In Poland; died on 25 May 992 in Poznan, Wielkopolskie, Poland; was buried in Archcathedral Basilica of St Peter & St Paul, Poznan, Wielkopolskie, Poland.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LDMN-PWB


  6. 7.  Prokuj PRINCE OF POLANDProkuj PRINCE OF POLAND Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 933 in Of Poznan, Miasto Poznan, Poznan, Poland; died in 994.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LZZW-GKD


  7. 8.  Princess Adelajda Aleta PIAST OF POLANDPrincess Adelajda Aleta PIAST OF POLAND Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 953 in Poznan, Wielkopolskie, Poland; died in 997 in Sz?kesfeh?rv?r, Fej?r, Hungary; was buried in Hungary.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LCR2-M6T



Generation: 3

  1. 9.  DuvelinaDuvelina Descendancy chart to this point (2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: D1F8EF7E4C7243829F5269BC434039A530F1


  2. 10.  Senfria (Seinfreda)Senfria (Seinfreda) Descendancy chart to this point (2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born before 936; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 463E972FE7DD47F6872C01479A379C792CF9


  3. 11.  Herfast (Herbastus Arfast) De CREPONHerfast (Herbastus Arfast) De CREPON Descendancy chart to this point (2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 944 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; and died.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: V9T9-W0
    • FamilySearch ID: GJN4-BPJ
    • Name: Herfast De CREPON
    • _UID: 823FF769FE08489BB5A5F73B0344B560F2E9

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com


  4. 12.  Miss Of CREPONMiss Of CREPON Descendancy chart to this point (2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 946; and died.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: GJN4-YQS
    • _UID: 918D772781114CC7A0B43C90E4491CD59F2A

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com


  5. 13.  Gunnora (Gonnor) DE CREPONGunnora (Gonnor) DE CREPON Descendancy chart to this point (2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 936 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died about 1031 in France.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: G39Q-HBK
    • Name: Gonnor De CREPON
    • _UID: 5A335DB7DA964FACAA2D335ABBBB4F4F8453

    Notes:

    Curt Hofemann, [email protected], in a post-em, wrote:

    Apparently she was not "de Crepon" & her parentage is unknown:

    The name of the father of Gunnor is unknown. Herbastus is derived from the name of her brother Herfast/Arfastus, but is unsupported. [Ref: Todd A Farmerie message to Gen-Medieval 6 Nov 1996]

    The greater part of our information about Gunnor and her relations is derived from those additions to the History of William of Jumieges for which Robert de Rotigny is responsible. It is Robert who preserved the story of how Richard I of Normandy became enamoured of the beautiful Senfrie, wife of one of his foresters, and how Senfrie contrived to substitute her sister Gunnor for herself, to the Duke's ultimate satisfaction. [Ref The Sisters and Nieces of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy by G.H. White in the Genealogist, New Series 1921 v37 p57]

    Parentage of Gunnor and her siblings is unknown. While some sources call her father Herfastus, this was in fact the name of her brother. She has also been claimed as a daughter of the Danish royal family, but there is no evidence for this, and the context of her coming to attention of Richard I and the family's subsequent rise to power militates against her being a royal daughter. Douglas argued, based on the donations of brother Arfast to the monastery of St. Pere, that the root of the family was in the Cotetin region of Normandy, but van Houts has suggested that the Cotetin land was granted to Arfast, rather than inherited by him. Thus we are left with the more ambiguous statement of Torigny and others that she was a member of a Norman family of Danish origins. [Ref: Todd A Farmerie message to Gen-Medieval 5 Jan 1997]

    Gunnora ... was not "de Crepon", nor was she daughter of Herbastus de Crepon of Denmark - her brother Herfastus/Arfast appears to have received Crepon only after Gunnora took up with Richard I, and thus the family was not originally from there. Likewise, while she is said to be of a noble family of Danish ancestry, it is not stated that her father was from Denmark (the family probably arrived with Rollo, in the generation of her (unknown) grandfather. [Ref: Todd A Farmerie message to Gen-Medieval 28 Jul 2000]

    Research note 1: Was her father Herfast de CREPON or King Haraldblaafand of DENMARK? There is a lack of consensus on this. -Charlotte's Web Geneology http://www.charweb.org/gen/rjones/d0042/g0000020.htm#I239

    Research note 2: father: Harald I Blaatand, Bluetooth, King of Denmark [Ref: McBride2 (possibly citing Wurts)]

    My notes on Gunnora:
    This is the same Gunnora known as Gunnora of Crepon, but both are of little value. Gunnora was NOT of Denmark. Some inventive genealogist somewhere along the line decided to make her daughter of Harald Bluetooth, but there is no basis for this, and what we know of her indicates it is not really a possibility worthy of consideration. Her nephew later was called "of Crepon" but he likely gained his posessions through Gunnora's marriage to the Duke, rather than this representing the original home of the clan.

    What can be said of Gunnora's parents? Nothing! She was not daughter of Harfast, as (too) often stated. Her family was likely of the minor Norman nobility, since her oldest sister was married to a forester at the time Richard first bumped into the girls. That's it.

    Richard I of Normandy first bedded, and later married Gunnora, whose ancestry is entirely unknown. She is sometimes said to be daughter of a King of Denmark, but this is incorrect. [taf]

    There are several things going on here. First of all, the father of Gunnora and siblings is not known. Attempts to name him Herbastus probably originated in confusion with her brother. Second, Gunnora had three sisters, Senfria/Senfreda, Wevia, and (Avelina). The first married an otherwise unknown forester. The latter two are confused by our two sources, one claiming that it was Wevia who married Osbern, and the other that Wevia married Turold of Pont Audemer, and by deduction, (Avelina) married Osbern. We know that Osbern married one of them, and a recent analysis suggests that it was Wevia for nomenclatural reasons. (Specifically, Turold and wife had a granddaughter named Duvelina, and it is hyposthesized that she was named for her grandmother, and that Duvelina is the authentic name of the sister, rather than Avelina. Finally, in which generation was Osbern's. This is unambiguous. She was sister of Gunnora and the others. There is no source before recent times that claims otherwise. There are two probable origins for the error that she was niece of Gunnora. First, due to the error in naming her father Herfastus, someone aware that this was the name of Gunnora's brother assumed then that Avelina's father was Gunnora's brother (the name of Gunnora's father being unknown, and probably unknowable). The second possibility is a confusion of uncle and nephew. Harfastus/Arfast had a son Osbern of Crepon, and perhaps someone confused this man with Osbern of Bolbec. Still, we know for certain that Osbern of Bolbec married a sister of Gunnora. [Ref: Dave Utzinger message to Gen-Medieval 29 Jul 2000]

    Regards,
    Curt

    Gunnora married Richard I "Sans Peur" Duke Of NORMANDY, 3rd after 962 in France. Richard (son of William I "Longsword" FITZROBERT, 2nd and Sprota (Adela) Of Senlis) was born on 28 Aug 933 in F?camp, Normandie (Normandy, France); died on 20 Nov 996 in F?camp, Normandie (Normandy, France); was buried in F?camp, Normandie (Normandy, France). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 18. Robert Count Of Evereaux Of NORMANDY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 965 in , Normandie; died in 1037.
    2. 19. Maugher (Mauger) Earl Of Corbeil De NORMANDY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 967 in Normandie (Normandy), France; and died.
    3. 20. Hedwig Of NORMANDY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 970 in Normandy, France; died on 21 Feb 1033-1034; was buried in Rennes, Bretagne, France.
    4. 21. Mahaud De NORMANDIE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 974 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died before 1017.
    5. 22. Richard II "The Good" Duke Of NORMANDY, 4rd  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 20 Nov 974 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died on 28 Aug 1026 in L'abbaye DE Fecamp; was buried on 29 Aug 1026 in F?camp, Normandie (Normandy, France).
    6. 23. Havoise De NORMANDIE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 977 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died on 21 Feb 1033-1034; was buried in , Rennes, Bretagne.
    7. 24. Ralph Auberee Of Normandy Count Of IVRY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 978 in Ivry-La-Bataille, Evereux, Eure, Normandie, France; died after 1034.
    8. 25. B?atrix (Beatrix B?atrice) Of NORMANDY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 980 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died on 18 Jan 1033-1034.
    9. 26. Emma Princess Of NORMANDY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 982 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died on 6 Mar 1051-1052 in , Winchester, Hampshire, England; was buried in St Martin's Church, Winchester, Hampshire, England.
    10. 27. Emma Of Normandy  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 986; and died.

  6. 14.  Woerta (Wevia) DE CREPONWoerta (Wevia) DE CREPON Descendancy chart to this point (2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 942 in Port-Audemer, Normandy, France; and died.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: GJNH-MZP
    • Name: Eva Senfrie (Sainfrie) De CREPON
    • Name: Senfrida (Senfria) CREPON
    • Name: Senfrie (Sainfrie) De CREPON
    • _UID: 31FD3CDCFA69441D92BD0186F7B4E0F8634E
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 946; Alt. Birth
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 959; Alt. Birth

    Notes:

    1. Histoire de la Maison de Harcourt" by La Roque (vol. 1, pp. 36-58).
    2. Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, and Extinct Peerages" (pp. 42 and 399-400).

    Avelina, sister of Gundra, wife of Richard I, Duke of Normandy. [Burke's Peerage]
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    Wevia, the only other sister of Gunnor named by Torigny, married Osbern de Bolbec (who is otherwise unknown to history). They had at least two sons: Walter Giffard, ancestor of the English Giffard/Gifford families, and also, through his daughter, of the Clare family; and Godfrey, whose son William de Arques had two daughters and co-heiresses.

    Note; I have Wevia's son as Gozeline (or Godfrey) and grandfather of William de Arques.

    Alt. Birth:
    Arque, Normandie, France

    Family/Spouse: Osbern (Osbert) Lord Of Longueville De DE BOLBEC. Osbern was born about 940 in Brimesfield, Gloucestershire, England; died in in France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 28. Osbern II Seigneur De Longueville De BOLEBEC  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 979 in Bolbec, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died in 1063 in France.
    2. 29. Beatrice De BOLEBEC  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 980 in Longueville, Normandie, France; and died.
    3. 30. Godfrey (Gozeline) Vicomte D' ARQUES  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 987 in Longueville-Sur-Scie, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died after 1035 in Arques-La-Bataille, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France.

    Woerta married Turolf Sire Of Pont-Audemer De HARCOURT about 980 in France. Turolf (son of Torf "The Rich" DE HARCOURT, Prince Of Denmark and Ertemberge DE BRIOQUEBEC) was born between 949 and 951 in Pont-Audemer, Eure, Normandy, France; died after 1040; was buried in Preaux, Normandy, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 31. Josseline DE PONTAUDEMER  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 975-981 in Probably Ponteaudemer, Normandy, France; died in 1048-1068.
    2. 32. Humphrey HARCOURT, Sgn De Pont-Audemer  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 980 in Pont-Audemer, Eure, Normandy, France; died on 28 Sep 1044 in Normandy, France; was buried in Preaux, Normandy, France.
    3. 33. Herbrand HARCOURT  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 982 in Of, Pont-Audemer, Eure, France; and died.
    4. 34. Gilbert HARCOURT  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 984 in Of, Pont-Audemer, Eure, France; and died.
    5. 35. Richard HARCOURT  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 986 in Of, Pont-Audemer, Eure, France; and died.
    6. 36. Ancheltile DE HARCOURT  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 987-991; and died.
    7. 37. Ilbert HARCOURT  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 988 in Of, Pont-Audemer, Eure, France; and died.
    8. 38. Turchetil  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 988 in Of, Pont Audemer, Normandy, France; died in in Sp.

  7. 15.  Senfrie (Senfria\Seinfreda) Of CREPONSenfrie (Senfria\Seinfreda) Of CREPON Descendancy chart to this point (2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 950 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; and died.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: GJNH-3JT
    • _UID: EBC1037E5D274D619D31B8855B9BA11112BB

    Notes:

    Turton has Eva/Dulceline married to Tourade de Pontaudemer, and mother of Josceline. According to Todd A. Farmerie & Alan B. Wilson, citing the latest works, Senfrie was mother of Josceline, but she married a forester of St. Vaast, while her sister Duvelina married Turulf de Pont Audemer.

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    The following is excerpted (full post is in notes under father) from a post to SGM, 3 Dec 1996, by Todd Farmerie:

    From: Todd A. Farmerie ([email protected])
    Subject: Robert de Torigny and the family of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy
    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: 1996/12/03

    Gunnor had at least three sisters, of which the oldest appears to have been Senfria (Seinfreda), who was wife of the (unnamed) forester from the area of St. Vaast d'Equiqueville, and it was her charms which are said first to have attracted the attentions Duke Richard I. She appears to have had at least one daughter, Joscelina, wife of Hugh de Montgomery. (Torigny makes Joscelina daughter of another sister, Wevia, but a contemporary of Torigny, in demonstrating the genealogical impediment to a marriage of a bastard of Henry I to a Montgomery descendant specifically calls Joscelina's mother Senfria, and the inheritance by the Montgomerys of large holdings suggests that Joscelina was a significant coheir to her parents, which does not match Wevia's family where two sons would be expected to acquire most of the family land.) Hugh de Montgomery and Joscelina had a son Roger, but contrary to Torigny's statements, he was not the Conquest baron of that name, but instead his father. By a wife possibly named Emma, Roger had: Hugh; Roger (who married Mabel of Belleme and played a significant role in pre-Conquest Normandy); William (who murdered cousin Osbern); Robert, and Gilbert.


  8. 16.  Duvelina (Eva\Dulceline) Of CREPONDuvelina (Eva\Dulceline) Of CREPON Descendancy chart to this point (2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 953 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; and died.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: GJNH-QKH
    • _UID: 60BDE91D98624D4C81370C47A984DD13DE7F

    Notes:

    The following is excerpted (full post is in notes under father) from a post to SGM, 3 Dec 1996, by Todd Farmerie:

    From: Todd A. Farmerie ([email protected])
    Subject: Robert de Torigny and the family of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy
    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: 1996/12/03

    Duvelina, a second sister of Gunnor, married Turulf de Pont Audemer, son of a Norman founder Torf, and uncle of the first of the Harcourts. They had at least one son, Humphrey de Vielles, who in turn was father of Roger de Beaumont, another Conquest-era baron.


  9. 17.  Herfast (Arfastus) De CREPONHerfast (Arfastus) De CREPON Descendancy chart to this point (2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 955 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died in Deceased in Crepon, Calvados, Normandy, France.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: GJNH-3VS
    • _UID: 36814710EB1A496B8FEDF36A2689B3888A38

    Notes:

    The following is excerpted (full post is in notes under father) from a post to SGM, 3 Dec 1996, by Todd Farmerie:

    From: Todd A. Farmerie ([email protected])
    Subject: Robert de Torigny and the family of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy
    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: 1996/12/03

    The only known brother of Gunnor was Arfast/Herfast, of whom we gain what little insight we have from a trial of heretics conducted by Robert II. Arfast testified that he had pretended to join the sect, all the better to denounce them when the time arose. He later donated lands to the monastery of St. Pere, to which he retired. He had at least two sons: Osbern, who was steward to the later Dukes, and was murdered by William de Montgomery while defending the young Duke William; and Ranulf, known from charters. Osbern maried a niece of Richard I (the daughter of his half-brother) and by her was the father of the Conquest baron William Fitz Osbern.

    Note: William de Montgomery was great grandson of Senfria "not' de Crepon.



Generation: 4

  1. 18.  Robert Count Of Evereaux Of NORMANDYRobert Count Of Evereaux Of NORMANDY Descendancy chart to this point (13.Gunnora3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 965 in , Normandie; died in 1037.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 9GB4-KR
    • Name: Robert Archbishop Of Rouen & Count Of EVEREAUX
    • Name: Robert De NORMANDIE
    • _UID: F6066A84C21D4841B4CED312247010399671
    • Alt. Birth: 964; Alt. Birth

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com

    Occupation:
    Archbishop of Rouen

    Occupation:
    Count of Evereaux

    Alt. Birth:
    Normandie, France


  2. 19.  Maugher (Mauger) Earl Of Corbeil De NORMANDYMaugher (Mauger) Earl Of Corbeil De NORMANDY Descendancy chart to this point (13.Gunnora3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 967 in Normandie (Normandy), France; and died.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 8WKC-VV
    • LDS Temple: Earl of Corbeil
    • Name: Mauger De NORMANDIE
    • Name: Maugher Earl Of CORBEIL
    • _UID: 61BCBD9E09BC4E4E8BC6AFEFFACFCA4CA776
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 967; Alt. Birth

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com

    Alt. Birth:
    Of Normandie

    Maugher married about 997 in Normandie (Normandy), France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 20.  Hedwig Of NORMANDYHedwig Of NORMANDY Descendancy chart to this point (13.Gunnora3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 970 in Normandy, France; died on 21 Feb 1033-1034; was buried in Rennes, Bretagne, France.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 9E0B2B04F03C415AA476E0F53B6FDE263C19

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com

    Family/Spouse: Geofroi I Duke Of BRITTANY. Geofroi (son of Conan I "The Crooked" Rennes Count Of BRITTANY and Ermengarde D'ANJOU) was born about 980 in Bretagne, Normandy, France; died on 20 Nov 1008 in Killed. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 21.  Mahaud De NORMANDIEMahaud De NORMANDIE Descendancy chart to this point (13.Gunnora3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 974 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died before 1017.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 9GB4-QM
    • _UID: 0D0FDD59423A405C8E060326E0C86A5A930E

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com


  5. 22.  Richard II "The Good" Duke Of NORMANDY, 4rdRichard II "The Good" Duke Of NORMANDY, 4rd Descendancy chart to this point (13.Gunnora3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born on 20 Nov 974 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died on 28 Aug 1026 in L'abbaye DE Fecamp; was buried on 29 Aug 1026 in F?camp, Normandie (Normandy, France).

    Other Events:

    • Alt. Burial: Alt. Burial
    • Name: Richard II The Good Of NORMANDY
    • Name: The Good
    • _UID: CA743EFB35B4419BAF1F5B2C8DC94918484C
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 958
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 963; Alt. Birth
    • Titled: Between 996 and 1026
    • Alt. Death: 28 Aug 1027; Alt. Death

    Notes:

    Name Suffix: Duke of Normandy
    Ancestral File Number: 9HMD-XR
    Sourc es: RC 89, 141, 167, 176; Kraentzler 1156, 1174, 1194, 1211, 1218, 1225,
    1239, 1264, 1443; K and Q of Britain, Onslow; Coe, A. Roots 121, 132, 132A; 177;
    Pf afman; Butler; AIS.
    RC and K: Richard II, le Bon (the Good). Duke of Normandy.
    AIS: Richard II, Duke of Normandy.

    SOURCES:
    1. Stuart, Roderick W. _Roy alty for Commoners_. 2nd Edition. Baltimore,
    MD: Genealogical Publishing Com pany, Inc., 1992; line 89-32.
    2. Ancestral File (AFN:9HMD-XR).

    1 NAME Richard II the Good of /Normandy/

    Sources: RC 89, 141, 167, 176; Kraentzler 1156, 1174, 1194, 1211, 1218, 1225,
    1239, 1264, 1443; K and Q of Britain, Onslow; Coe, A. Roots 121, 132, 132A; 177 ;
    Pfafman; Butler; AIS.
    RC and K: Richard II, le Bon (the Good). Duke of Norm andy.
    AIS: Richard II, Duke of Normandy.

    SOURCES:
    1. Stuart, Roderick W. _Royalty for Commoners_. 2nd Edition. Baltimore,
    MD: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 1992; line 89-32.
    2. Ancestral File (AFN:9HMD-XR).


    Richard II, byname RICHARD THE GOOD, French RICHARD LE BON (d. 1026/27), duke of Normandy (996-1026/27), son of Richard I the Fearless. He held his own against a peasant insurrection, helped Robert II of France against the duchy of Burgundy, and repelled an English attack on the Cotentin Peninsula that was led by the Anglo-Saxon king Ethelred II the Unready. He also pursued a reform of the Norman monasteries. [Encyclopaedia Britannica CD '97]

    Alt. Burial:
    Fbecamp, Normandie

    Relationship (J,M&L):
    33rd Great-grandparent

    Alt. Birth:
    of, Normandy, France

    Alt. Birth:
    , Normandie

    Titled:
    Duc (Duke) de Normandie (Normandy)

    Alt. Death:
    Fbecamp, Normandie

    Richard married in , Normandy, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Richard married Judith Of Brittany DE BRETAGNE in 1000 in , Normandy, France. Judith (daughter of Conan I "The Crooked" Rennes Count Of BRITTANY and Ermengarde D'ANJOU) was born in 982 in Bretagne, Normandy, France; died on 16 Jun 1017 in Normandie (Normandy), France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 39. William (Nicholas), Monk At Fechamp  Descendancy chart to this point and died.
    2. 40. Alice (Adelaide, Judith)  Descendancy chart to this point and died.
    3. 41. Avelina (Aveline) De Normandie FITZRICHARD  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 995 in Longueville, Normandie, France; died in in France.
    4. 42. Judith De NORMANDY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 996; died in in , France.
    5. 43. Richard III Duke Of NORMANDY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 997 in Normandy, France; died on 6 Aug 1028.
    6. 44. Countess Eleanor (Saint Adela) Of NORMANDY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1005 in Normandy, France; died in 1071 in As A Nun, At The Benedictine Convent Near Ypres.
    7. 45. Guillaume Nicholas Lord Of Areci De NORMANDIE  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1005 and 1010 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died in Jun 1025 in Normandie (Normandy), France.
    8. 46. Robert II "The Devil" Of Normandy ANGEVIN, Duke Of Normandy  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1008 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died on 22 Jul 1050 in Nicaea, Bithynia, Turkey; was buried in Nicaea, Bithynia, Turkey.
    9. 47. El?onore (Eleonore) De NORMANDIE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1009 in Normandie (Normandy), France; and died.

    Richard married Papia (Poppa) D' ENVERMEU in 1007 in Le Mont Saint Michel (50170, France). Papia was born about 970; died in 1024. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 48. Adele Of NORMANDY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 992; and died.
    2. 49. Fr?sende (Fredistina Fredesenda) De NORMANDIE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 995 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died in 1057.
    3. 50. Mauger Archev?que De ROUEN  Descendancy chart to this point was born after 1007; and died.

    Richard married Estrith (Margaret) Of Denmark in 1017. Estrith and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Richard married Papia Of Envermeu about 1024. Papia and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 51. Mauger Of Rouen, Archbishop Of Rouen  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 52. William Of Arques, Count Of Arques  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 53. Papia  Descendancy chart to this point

  6. 23.  Havoise De NORMANDIEHavoise De NORMANDIE Descendancy chart to this point (13.Gunnora3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 977 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died on 21 Feb 1033-1034; was buried in , Rennes, Bretagne.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 9GB4-RS
    • _UID: BAF259B3FD6447EEA851960769B89F50F487

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com


  7. 24.  Ralph Auberee Of Normandy Count Of IVRYRalph Auberee Of Normandy Count Of IVRY Descendancy chart to this point (13.Gunnora3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born in 978 in Ivry-La-Bataille, Evereux, Eure, Normandie, France; died after 1034.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Ralph AUBEREE
    • _UID: C5862410E9F5446787E0FFA54DE6DF0429DF

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com


  8. 25.  B?atrix (Beatrix B?atrice) Of NORMANDYB?atrix (Beatrix B?atrice) Of NORMANDY Descendancy chart to this point (13.Gunnora3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 980 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died on 18 Jan 1033-1034.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 9GB4-S0
    • Name: B?atrice (Beatrice) De NORMANDIE
    • Name: B?atrix (Beatrix) De NORMANDIE
    • _UID: 2B96BA33460847389D732AB895DF69469045
    • Alt. Birth: 980; Alt. Birth

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com


  9. 26.  Emma Princess Of NORMANDYEmma Princess Of NORMANDY Descendancy chart to this point (13.Gunnora3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 982 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died on 6 Mar 1051-1052 in , Winchester, Hampshire, England; was buried in St Martin's Church, Winchester, Hampshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: B19R-Q9
    • _UID: 61B7A449BA774EDA835D7854B11846CEE77E

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com

    Emma married Ethelred II "The Unready" King Of ENGLAND in 1002 in Of Normandie, France. Ethelred (son of Edgar "The Peacable" King Of ENGLAND and Elfrida (Elfthryth) Queen Of ENGLAND) was born about 968 in Wessex, England; died on 23 Apr 1016 in London, Middlesexshire, England; was buried in St Paul's, London, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 54. Alfred Prince Of ENGLAND  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1002 in , Wessex, England; died about 1036 in , England.
    2. 55. Edward III "The Confessor" King Of ENGLAND  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1004 in , Islip, Oxfordshire, England; died on 5 Jan 1065-1066 in , London, Middlesex, England; was buried on 6 Jan 1065-1066 in St. Peter's Church, Westminster, Middlesex, England.
    3. 56. Goda (Godgifu) Princess Of ENGLAND  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1004 in Of, Wessex, England; died about 1055 in , England.
    4. 57. Ingelric "The Saxon" Prince Of ENGLAND  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1006 in Of St. Martin`s, -Le Grand, London, Middlesex, England; and died.

  10. 27.  Emma Of NormandyEmma Of Normandy Descendancy chart to this point (13.Gunnora3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born in 986; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 3F22053E50714EE784FE83269D846BB10289


  11. 28.  Osbern II Seigneur De Longueville De BOLEBECOsbern II Seigneur De Longueville De BOLEBEC Descendancy chart to this point (14.Woerta3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 979 in Bolbec, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died in 1063 in France.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Osbern De BOLBEC
    • Name: Osbern De BOLEBEC
    • _UID: 734174FD45C04D5FAA4D95E219DFAE08F2BD

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com

    Family/Spouse: Avelina (Aveline) De Normandie FITZRICHARD. Avelina (daughter of Richard II "The Good" Duke Of NORMANDY, 4rd and Judith Of Brittany DE BRETAGNE) was born about 995 in Longueville, Normandie, France; died in in France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 58. Walter "The Elder" Earl Of Buckingham GIFFARD  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1011 in Of, Longueville, Normandy, France; died in in France.
    2. 59. Berenger GIFFARD  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1012 in Of, Longueville, Normandy, France; and died.
    3. 60. Elias Helias GIFFARD, Lord Of Brimsfield  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1060 in Longueville-Sur-Scie, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died before 1130 in Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England.

  12. 29.  Beatrice De BOLEBECBeatrice De BOLEBEC Descendancy chart to this point (14.Woerta3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 980 in Longueville, Normandie, France; and died.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Daughter Of BOLBEC
    • _UID: 4CC0839699AC4559844D1907C3730DD81476

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com


  13. 30.  Godfrey (Gozeline) Vicomte D' ARQUESGodfrey (Gozeline) Vicomte D' ARQUES Descendancy chart to this point (14.Woerta3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 987 in Longueville-Sur-Scie, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died after 1035 in Arques-La-Bataille, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 6DD98BE0284344AE81658052BABB03B9F745


  14. 31.  Josseline DE PONTAUDEMERJosseline DE PONTAUDEMER Descendancy chart to this point (14.Woerta3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 975-981 in Probably Ponteaudemer, Normandy, France; died in 1048-1068.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 0A4D905B28994BD7BE3250D5A717517EC7EA

    Family/Spouse: Hugh DE MONTGOMERY, Vicomte De Montgomery. Hugh (son of Roger I DE MONTGOMERY, Vicomte D'hiemois and Josceline HARCOURT) was born about 1010 in Probably St. Germain, Montgomery, Normandy, France; died before 7 Feb 1055-1056. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 61. Roger DE MONTGOMERY, Earl Of Shrewsbury  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1022-1030 in Probably Normandy, France; died on 27 Jul 1094 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England.

  15. 32.  Humphrey HARCOURT, Sgn De Pont-AudemerHumphrey HARCOURT, Sgn De Pont-Audemer Descendancy chart to this point (14.Woerta3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 980 in Pont-Audemer, Eure, Normandy, France; died on 28 Sep 1044 in Normandy, France; was buried in Preaux, Normandy, France.

    Other Events:

    • Alt. Burial: Alt. Burial
    • Name: Humphrey De HARCOURT
    • Name: Humphrey De VIEILLES
    • _UID: 246A739BDF7F4830A3B44F0BEEE4F2CDB432
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 980; Alt. Birth
    • Alt. Death: 28 Sep 1044; Alt. Death

    Notes:

    [001.ged]

    Name Suffix: Seigneur
    Ancestral File Number: 9NR1-D8
    Sources: WED Stokes; RC 103, 220; Kraentzler 1354, 1424; Norr; AF.
    RC: Humphrey de Vielles, Seigneur de Pont-Audemer.
    Norr: He was a nephew of Gunnor. (Right. Gunnor and Wevia were sisters).
    K: Humphrey de Vielles/Villiers, Seigneur de Vielles/Vil liers & Pontaudemer.
    WED: Humphrey de Vielles de Preaux.

    SOURCES:
    1. Stua rt, Roderick W. _Royalty for Commoners_. 2nd Edition. Baltimore,
    MD: Geneal ogical Publishing Company, Inc., 1992; lines 103-33 and 220-33.
    He was the Sei gneur de Pont-Audemar.

    !#genealigical history of the family of montgomery p age 12

    Seigneur

    Royal Genealogies p 416, Chronological Chart p 1;
    Magna Carta pp164,1793;
    Royal Ancestors of Magna Carta Baron p 76,
    Cokayne Vol VII p520
    Ancestral Roots pp 65,123 Trafford Pedigree; Some Early English Pedigrees, British 942 D2no, page20.

    =======================================================

    CHAPTER I: THE CONQUEROR
    The Conqueror and His Companions
    by J.R. Planche, Somerset Herald. London: Tinsley Brothers, 1874.

    Roger de Toeni, a collateral descendant of the line of Rollo, refused all allegiance to the illegitimate grandson of the Furrier of Falaise, and commenced ravaging the lands around him, especially those of Humphrey de Vielles. The spoiler was, however, defeated in a sanguinary combat by Roger de Beaumont, son of Humphrey, and paid for his aggression with his own life and those of two of his sons, Halbert and Elinance.


    Source: lorenfamily.com

    Alt. Burial:
    Preaux, Normandy, France, France

    Titled:
    Count de Vieilles

    Titled:
    Seigneur de Pont-Audemer

    Alt. Birth:
    of Pontaudemer, Normandy, France

    Alt. Death:
    ,Normandy, France

    Humphrey married about 1010 in France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Humphrey married in 1027 in Of, Normandy, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  16. 33.  Herbrand HARCOURTHerbrand HARCOURT Descendancy chart to this point (14.Woerta3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 982 in Of, Pont-Audemer, Eure, France; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 1529259D379144B9871DF471DA2E0C715319

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com


  17. 34.  Gilbert HARCOURTGilbert HARCOURT Descendancy chart to this point (14.Woerta3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 984 in Of, Pont-Audemer, Eure, France; and died.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: V9XD-L5
    • _UID: FDF8595210EB44E3B4E81BED5372AB976DA6

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com


  18. 35.  Richard HARCOURTRichard HARCOURT Descendancy chart to this point (14.Woerta3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 986 in Of, Pont-Audemer, Eure, France; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: D740B9D65C5448D4859EBCEF5BCF0159C41D

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com


  19. 36.  Ancheltile DE HARCOURTAncheltile DE HARCOURT Descendancy chart to this point (14.Woerta3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born in 987-991; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 69277B2C51E74579B44152BBE5129FB67B33


  20. 37.  Ilbert HARCOURTIlbert HARCOURT Descendancy chart to this point (14.Woerta3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 988 in Of, Pont-Audemer, Eure, France; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: DEFCEB36CEAA4129B6D49CBF1A593C51C248

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com


  21. 38.  TurchetilTurchetil Descendancy chart to this point (14.Woerta3, 2.Herbastus2, 1.Ziemomsyl1) was born about 988 in Of, Pont Audemer, Normandy, France; died in in Sp.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: V9T4-4B
    • _UID: 149B44C9A4664A27ACF8B3DCB5B3AF04858C

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com