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Fulbert De FALAISE |
| Born |
Abt 978 |
Falaise, Normandie (Normandy, France)  |
| Gender |
Male |
| AFN |
GS5L-BT |
| Alt. Birth |
978 |
| Alt. Birth |
- Falaise, Calvados, France
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| Name |
Fulbert "The Furrier" Of FALAISE |
| Name |
Fulbert Chamberlain Of Normandy De FALAISE |
| Name |
Fulbert De FALAISE [2, 3] |
| Name |
Fulbert De FALAISE |
| Occupation |
- Peaussier (Skin dresser) et Tanneur (Tanner)
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| Occupation |
Bef 6 Aug 1028 |
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| Occupation |
Aft 6 Aug 1028 |
- Chamberlain of Robert "The Devil" Duke of Normandy
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| _UID |
DC4C9C8D657C4E7E9C8619C53816678F42E7 |
| Died |
Falaise, Calvados, France |
| Person ID |
I8280 |
Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy |
| Last Modified |
5 Feb 2012 |
| Family |
Doda Princess Of SCOTLAND, b. Abt 985, Falaise, Calvados, France , d. Falaise, Calvados, France |
| Married |
1003 |
Falaise, Calvados, France |
| Children |
| | 1. Reynald Lord Of CROY, b. Abt 1008, Of Croy, Picardie, Flandres , d. Yes, date unknown |
| | 2. Herleve (Arlette) Of FALAISE, Officer Of The Household, b. 1012, Falaise, Calvados, France , d. 1050, Normandie (Normandy), France (Age 38 years) |
| | 3. Osbern Of FALAISE, b. Abt 1012, Falaise, Normandie , d. Yes, date unknown |
| | 4. Gautier (Walter) Chambellan Normandie FALAISE, b. Abt 1015, Falaise, Normandie (Normandy, France) , d. Yes, date unknown |
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| Last Modified |
29 Aug 2016 |
| Family ID |
F4165 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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Nickname: "The Tanner"
1 NAME Fulbert /De Falaise/
1 NAME Fulbert /de Falaise/
2 SOUR S033320
3 DATA
4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001
1 B IRT
2 PLAC Falaise, Normandy
1 BIRT
2 DATE ABT. 978
2 PLAC Falaise, N ormandie
1 BIRT
2 DATE ABT. 980
2 PLAC Chaumont, Belgium
2 SOUR S03332 0
3 DATA
4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001
[De La Pole.FTW]
Sour ces: RC 89, 160; Kraentzler 1156, 1264, 1265; AF; A. Roots 121E, 130; The Dukes of Normandy by Onslow;
AIS; Fortune's Knave by Mary Lide.
Onslow: He was a Wa lloon, born at Chaumont nearLiege, Belgium. Moved to Falaise and became a wealthy tanner, an occupation of low regard--and high smell. He later also became a brewer--a combination not viewed highly by the public. He also became Chamberlain to Duke Robert after his daughter became the duke's mistress. Fulbert and his wife had opposed their daughter's relationship with the duke, wanting her to marry someone in her station of life.
AIS: Fulbert of Falaise.
Lide: In her novel she says Fulbert had a son Walter, who helped William the Bastard escape from the clutches of Ralph de Gace, who hoped to became the Duke of Normandy.
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CHAPTER I: THE CONQUEROR
The Conqueror and His Companions
by J.R. Planche, Somerset Herald. London: Tinsley Brothers, 1874.
"The trade of Herleve's father," says the most recent writer on the subject, "seems to be agreed on at all hands. He was a burgess of Falaise, and a tanner." [Freeman; History of the Norman Conquest, vol. ii. p. 61I]
Why particularly a tanner, I am at a loss to discover. By the Norman chroniclers he is called in Latin Pelletarius and Pelleciarius [Guill. de Jumi?ges, "Parentes matris ejus, pelliciarii existiterant" whence the modern word pelisse, from the French pelice, pelisson] and in French Pelletier and Parmentier , never by any authority Tanneur or Coriarius. Pelletier signifies a furrier, skinner, or fellmonger, and Parmeniier a tailor. [Permentarius seu Parmentarias ex Paramentarius qui vestes parat, id est ornat nostris olim Parmentier qui hodie, tailleur d'habits. Ducange in voce. "Parmentier, or taylor," Cotgrave. One MS. reads "Pantonnier," which is simply an abusive epithet, signifying "a lewd, stubborn, saucy knave." Ibid.] Now the insult offered to William at Alencon, where a skin was hung out and beaten to the cry of "La Pel, la Pel al Parmentier," in allusion to his maternal origin, is more applicable to the trade of a dealer in furs or leather than to a tanner. The vendor of furs must have been of some importance in those days, when garments lined or trimmed with fur were worn by both sexes and all classes; from the princely ermine, the sumptuous sable, the vair and minie-vair of the nobility to the humble budge or lambskin of the citizen or artizan. Leather must also have been in great demand, for not only were leathern jackets and leggings worn by workmen, but archers and the common soldiery were equipped with leathern Jaques; that is, coats made of what is called "jacked leather," and the Anglo-Saxons we find wearing helmets made of the same material. The furrier, skinner, or leather-seller would then, as in the present day, not only sell the materials but the robes, mantles, or vestments, the jaques, or coats of which they were made, or with which they were lined and ornamented, and "Parmentier" (tailor) would be considered probably in the eleventh century a more contemptuous allusion to the maternal descent of the chivalrous young duke than "Pelletier," furrier, or skinner. It is true that at Falaise there were in former times many tanneries, of which only three of importance remained in 1830 (Galeron,"Histoire de Falaise," p. 121); but we learn from Wace that in the eleventh century it was equally well known as the abode of furriers or skinners: "U peletiers aveit asez" (Roman de Rou, l. 9462), and it by no means follows that the father of Herleve should of necessity have been of the former "unsavory calling." There is no reason that a tanner should be less respectable than a furrier, [All authorities do not agree as to the "obloquy" attached to the leather trade insisted on by Sir F. Palgrave. "The tanners, the furriers, the goldsmiths, and the jewellers' arts, so far as they relate to dress, will appear to have been practised with great success by the Normans, and so far as we can judge from record, with as much honour as profit." ? Strutt: Dress and Habits of the People of England, vol. i. part 3, cap. I] and the distinction may be thought by some of little consequence, particularly as in the eleventh century the trades might have been combined; but it would be interesting to ascertain the origin of the English designation, which is certainly not justified by either the French or the Latin versions of the story.
And who were the parents of Herleve, whatever may have been their occupation? Here, again, we meet with nothing but contradictions: Fact and Fiction, like the old powers of light and darkness, struggling for mastery. That her father was a burgess of Falaise in some way of trade is incontestable. Sir Francis Palgrave (Hist. of Norm.), upon the authority of Alberic de Troisfontaines, says he was a brewer as well as a tanner, a combination of crafts prohibited in England. But what was his name? By one he is called Fulbert and Robert; by another Richard, with the sobriquet or descriptive appellation of Saburpyr, which has yet to be explained; while a third names him indifferently "Herbert or Verperay." [Ducarel: Ant. Ang.-Norm. Galeron, Histoire de Falaise (1830), p. 81, has "La Fille de Vertprey."] Her mother, as the wife of Richard, is named Helen, and represented as a descendant of the royal Anglo-Saxon family; while, as the wife of Robert, she is said to be one Dodo or Duxia, who came with her liusband from the neighbourhood of Liege and settled at Falaise.
Herleve is said to have been extremely beautiful, and was not yielded to the young Count by her father without considerable reluctance. The proposal, made to him by "a discreet ambassador,'' was received with the greatest indignation; but on consulting, we are told, his brother, who was a holy hermit in the neighbouring forest of Govert or Gouffern, a man of great sanctity,
"Ne fust un suen frere, un seint hom
Qui ont de grand relligion.
Qu'en Govert ont son armitage."
Benoet de Sainte-More.
Upon Robert's succession to the dukedom on the death of his elder brother Richard, in 1027, the father of Herleve was appointed his chamberlain, having therefore the care of the robes which he had probably made. Her brother Walter was also attached in some capacity to his person.
Source: lorenfamily.com
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